TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Trakya_forever]

@TheInsider what do you think the max.range of Kara Atmaca? What kind of engine are going to use with it? KTJ 3200 or a new and bigger one?

 

[Combat-Master]

Roketsan Achievements from 1988 to 2020
Note when Ramjet propulsion was developed - 2015

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Roketsan Achievements from 1988 to 2020
Note when Ramjet propulsion was developed - 2015
View attachment 41750

Do you know what the following are?:

MAAT
MGÜB
DYÜ
DSH
ATDM
ERA
K+
EKSIS
RDX-HMX

Thank you.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Do you know what the following are?:

MAAT
MGÜB
DYÜ
DSH
ATDM
ERA
K+
EKSIS
RDX-HMX

Thank you.

MAAT: Mühimmat ayıklama tesisi
MGÜB: Modüler geçici üs bolgesi
DYÜ: Dipten yanma ünitesi
DSH: Denizaltı savunma harbi
ATDM: Atış Test Değerlendirme Merkezi
ERA: Explosive Reactive Armor
K+: TRG300 rockets
RDX-HMX: Explosive chemicals

 

[Huelague]

@TheInsider what do you think the max.range of Kara Atmaca? What kind of engine are going to use with it? KTJ 3200 or a new and bigger one?

Right now, I think between 200km-220km.

 

[Anmdt]

Right now, I think between 200km-220km.

Officially declared as 280, as known as "279.99" limit, that should be the limiation on the range to ensure fulfillment of MTCR.

We will have an idea about the true range of the missiles without MTCR restrictions -- stemming from some imported components (apart from the motor) -- at the trial of ATMACA - IIR with KTJ-3200 and more domestic components. KALE is also developing a more efficient turbo-jet that will result in the ranges will "jump" without even reducing the warhead to store more fuel.

Range is something irrelevant without the data-link, re-engagement and mission planning features. What makes this missile deadlier is the KEMENT data link. That allows any ship in the vicinity to launch a missile and allow other platforms (MPA, FAC, UAV) to re-organize its (or their in salvo mode) attack plan.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Roketsan Çakir

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508788923853643782

 

[Trakya_forever]

I know only one Çakır. Its Süleyman Çakır. The name is man enough. I hope its unheard and important missile or system.

 

[TheInsider]

@TheInsider what do you think the max.range of Kara Atmaca? What kind of engine are going to use with it? KTJ 3200 or a new and bigger one?

Oh, I have concrete info on that. It is 500km (it will be advertised as 280km for obvious reasons). It will also be 140kg heavier than Atmaca.

 

[TheInsider]

Right now, I think between 200km-220km.

Right now there is no Kara Atmaca and Kara Atmaca is designed for KTJ-3200 from the start. It won't have a foreign engine.

 

[Combat-Master]

Roketsan Çakir

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508788923853643782

Medium Range Anti Ship Missile I suppose ?

 

[Hexciter]

Russian Telegram channels claim that a MAM-L belonging to Bayraktar TB-2 is located inside a military base in eastern Ukraine.
• The date of manufacture is 2020 and is damaged. It probably belongs to a crashed TB2.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508804097914417160

MAM-L Anti-tank; 19.6 kg

 

[TheInsider]

Roketsan Çakir

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508788923853643782

I wonder what this is. Project names and actual names of the products differ a lot in the Turkish defense industry.

Example:

Project name: MIDAS= National Dipping Sonar
Product name: Orkun 2053
Project name OMTAS-UMTAS
Product name Mızrak-O, Mızrak-U

ÇAKIR is probably the name of the product.
Roketsan has been working on a multi-purpose missile system it might be related to that.

 

[Anmdt]

multi-purpose missile

Really? I was expecting a submarine from Roketsan.

It is the NLOS missile.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Medium Range Anti Ship Missile I suppose ?

The meaning of Çakır is "Bluish, Blue Spotted". If the word is taken literally, it will be a sea missile. This points us to the MRAShM or NLOS-naval project.

 

[TheInsider]

Roketsan Achievements from 1988 to 2020
Note when Ramjet propulsion was developed - 2015
View attachment 41750

This is misleading some of them are start dates and some of them are delivery dates.
For example MAAT(ammo disposal facility) project started in 2007 but delivered in 2012 as far as i know.
MAAT(ammo disposal facility)
MGÜB (modular military base)
DYÜ(base bleed unit)
DSH(submarine warfare rocket)
ATDM( fire test and evaluation facility)
Ramjet(start of the ramject engine project for a product not a scientific research)
ERA(explosive reactive armor)
RDX-HMX(explosive production facility)
K+ (TRG-300 missile)
EKSIS( Electromagnetic jamming weapon system)

 

[TheInsider]

The meaning of Çakır is "Bluish, Blue Spotted". If the word is taken literally, it will be a sea missile. This points us to the MRAShM project.

True. It can also be used as a multi-purpose system with its IR sensor( against sea and land targets). Çakır also ends with IR infrared and Çakır also refers to eyes of a person is another hint for IR guidance.

 

[Anmdt]

The meaning of Çakır is "Bluish, Blue Spotted". If the word is taken literally, it will be a sea missile. This points us to the MRAShM or NLOS-naval project.

Could be a renaming of the MRAShM as well, but SSB owns that project and it is less likely for Roketsan to name and reveal it as a product before than the completion.

NLOS was going to be revealed in April, so it is possibly the SPIKE-NLOS equilavent that we all have been waiting for.

 

[Hexciter]

Levent has been developed to be fitted as an integrated CIADS on board the Turkish Navy's next-generation fast attack craft (FAC).

DIMDEX 2022: Roketsan showcases new Levent close-in air defence system

Turkish missile manufacturer Roketsan displayed its newly developed Levent (‘Sea Soldier') close-in air defence system (CIADS) at the Doha International Maritime Defence...

www.janes.com

Means we couldn’t secure RAM for them.

 

[Combat-Master]

Russian Telegram channels claim that a MAM-L belonging to Bayraktar TB-2 is located inside a military base in eastern Ukraine.
• The date of manufacture is 2020 and is damaged. It probably belongs to a crashed TB2.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1508804097914417160

MAM-L Anti-tank; 19.6 kg
View attachment 41754

What sort of procedures follow for such a munition to fall under adversaries supervision, I know Aselsan were working on a shutter system for their thermal weapon sights which internally blocks the thermal sensor thus making the sights useless. Wonder, if such a thing is available for MAM-L or such munitions, software and hardware locks ?