TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Hexciter]

SPECIAL | Roketsan Will Introduce ÇAKIR Missile Tomorrow!
- ÇAKIR, previously introduced as OMGS Missile, can be fired from different platforms

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509122603943968769

 

[dustdevil]

Turkish Navy likes Penguin, in fact even attempted to get an upgrade kit for aged Penguins to keep them active (however konsberg hasn't supplied any). They will definitely love the OMGFS. Longer range, better seeker, better engine, in a lower diameters, these are good bonuses.

It doesn't need to reach ranges of the Atmaca, made to be carried by light platforms and possibly will be on par with NSM, it is a plus feature to be launched from Helicopters, UAVs and USVs thanks to its lower diameter and lower weight (thus the lower warhead). The canisters will also be smaller than NSM (Roketsan is working on a new canister- launcher specially for this).

TEI manager Akşit once told there was a diameter requirement and they had to develop TJ300 at this diameter. So I understood that Navy only wants a medium range antiship missile but with this crazy requirement they created something more than they wanted and they are not aware of the potential…. Mind boggling or I am exaggerating a bit maybe this engine is way above OMGSF….

 

[Yasar_TR]

From all info available at the moment, one can say that CAKIR is an economical “Swiss Knife” of anti ship missiles. One size fits all.
But as a Swiss-Knife it is never going to be as effective as a full size Anti Ship misssile like a SOM-C or an Atmaca. it is small and may not have enough explosive to sink a frigate unless you are very lucky. Against FAC sized boats and small corvettes it may prove to be the right missile to use.
As a replacement of Penguin, it will seemingly surpass Penguin in all aspects. So with our helicopters operating from our frigates and corvettes as well as TCG Anadolu, our ships will have a deadly missile in their armoury.
We will find out a little more of it’s range and destructive power when it’s specifications are revealed, provided Roketsan is not too conservative or secretive.

 

[TheInsider]

SPECIAL | Roketsan Will Introduce ÇAKIR Missile Tomorrow!
- ÇAKIR, previously introduced as OMGS Missile, can be fired from different platforms
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509122603943968769

Yeah, it seems like OMGSF and the Multi-Purpose missile project are merged and now ÇAKIR became a multi-purpose missile. ÇAKIR abbreviation must be something like "Çok Amaçlı KIzılötesi Roket" (Multi Purpose Infrared Rocket)

ÇAKIR will probably be fired from sea, air, and possibly land against sea and land targets. The range of the Çakır should have around 150km when fired from the surface and above 200km when fired from the air.

 

[Hexciter]

Direct competitor of Çakir missile is MBDA’s new Marte-ER which has 340 kg launching weight and Carrying a 70 kg warhead to over +100 km distance.

 

[dustdevil]

From all info available at the moment, one can say that CAKIR is an economical “Swiss Knife” of anti ship missiles. One size fits all.
But as a Swiss-Knife it is never going to be as effective as a full size Anti Ship misssile like a SOM-C or an Atmaca. it is small and may not have enough explosive to sink a frigate unless you are very lucky. Against FAC sized boats and small corvettes it may prove to be the right missile to use.
As a replacement of Penguin, it will seemingly surpass Penguin in all aspects. So with our helicopters operating from our frigates and corvettes as well as TCG Anadolu, our ships will have a deadly missile in their armoury.
We will find out a little more of it’s range and destructive power when it’s specifications are revealed, provided Roketsan is not too conservative or secretive.

I think a frigate sized target needs at least 2-3 Atmaca to sink. To penetrate air defense maybe 10 Atmacas are needed. We can combine OMGSF or derivative with Atmaca and strike with maybe 30 missiles to overwhelm the target. I think about Aegis-like ability targets with CIWS sailing with their flotilla/task force.

Light smart torpedo+TJ300+some wing kit could be also possible. Land them near targets outside CIWS range and watch the show.

 

[TheInsider]

I think a frigate sized target needs at least 2-3 Atmaca to sink. To penetrate air defense maybe 10 Atmacas are needed. We can combine OMGSF or derivative with Atmaca and strike with maybe 30 missiles to overwhelm the target. I think about Aegis-like ability targets with CIWS sailing with their flotilla/task force.

Light smart torpedo+TJ300+some wing kit could be also possible. Land them near targets outside CIWS range and watch the show.

Depends where you hit. A lucky hit to the fuel depot or armory can make all the difference.

 

[dustdevil]

Depends where you hit. A lucky hit to the fuel depot or armory can make all the difference.

No no, I don’t mean or want lucky shots. We (navy) must think of statistics before engagement so the more numerous smart and longer range missiles the better.

something like an Atmaca/Harpoon per 50 meters length or 1000 tons.

 

[Trakya_forever]

Don't forget Kargı. TN simulates attacks 12-24-36 packages of Harpy ( near future Kargı) to the sea targets during practices.

 

[Huelague]

What do you thing about an EMP-Missile? They can knock of the radar and some passive defense systems from shorter range to make the job of ASM easier.

 

[kimov]

I think a frigate sized target needs at least 2-3 Atmaca to sink. To penetrate air defense maybe 10 Atmacas are needed. We can combine OMGSF or derivative with Atmaca and strike with maybe 30 missiles to overwhelm the target. I think about Aegis-like ability targets with CIWS sailing with their flotilla/task force.

Light smart torpedo+TJ300+some wing kit could be also possible. Land them near targets outside CIWS range and watch the show.

You dont need to sink the frigate as any ship hit by 100kg of HE just 1m above the water line will take the ship out of service for long time.

 

[Hexciter]

ÇAKIR Launch Ceremony Has Started

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509422728478183432

 

[Cabatli_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509424772576387075

 

[Combat-Master]

ÇAKIR Launch Ceremony Has Started
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509422728478183432

It's beautiful, compact enough for land based NLOS aswell. Kara-Cakir on the way perhaps ?

Also, looks like dual-mode seeker semi-active Laser and IIR ?

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509427955566628864

 

[Lool]

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509424772576387075

Is it a Surface to air missile? And if so, what are its specs?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Çakır family

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Range is 140+km

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509429489788497921

 

[Hexciter]

Roketsan General Manager: We brought the cruise missile with unmanned platforms with Çakır. For the first time in the world, swarm capability will be integrated into a cruise missile.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509429623850942464

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Çakir will be a part of Atmaca-Shore system

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509428777968934916