TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[TR_123456]

It doesn't need to reach ranges of the Atmaca, made to be carried by light platforms and possibly will be on par with NSM, it is a plus feature to be launched from Helicopters, UAVs and USVs thanks to its lower diameter and lower weight (thus the lower warhead). The canisters will also be smaller than NSM (Roketsan is working on a new canister- launcher specially for this).

NSM or JSM?

 

[Hexciter]

Pity! ÇAKIR missile seems to doesn’t have folding wings.

 

[Combat-Master]

Pity! ÇAKIR missile seems to doesn’t have folding wings.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509447853529251842

70Kg warhead, more than enough to disable systems on-board.

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Direct Competitor, Marte ER
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[TR_123456]

Can you do a ÇAKIR comparison with NSM and or JSM?

 

[Combat-Master]

Full presentation thanks to Tolga Ozbek, what's his @ here ?

 

[Anmdt]

optimistic model: 100 kg bomb hits over waterline. Ship disabled, battle stops, war ends with victory.

Hard to disable a "live ship" with its functioning crew. It is all about battle readiness, firefighting readiness etc. The factors involving in destroying or saving a ship is highly complex. If we happen to make a conversation about that it will take several hours merely for anti-ship missile damages.

It's beyond my expectation. Nice!

And below my expectation.

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Photo by @Defence Turkey on Twitter.

It is all good, but at least at this point i was expecting to see a quad-packed canister just as Rafael's sea-breaker. That kind of canisters dramatically reduce the replenishment time in harbor and replenishment time is critical for USV and FACs.

4 Cakir on a Coastal Defence Missile system's launcher unit is quite a little. There should be at least 8 per 6x6 , 4 per 4x4 carrier.

Navy also wants such a practical way with canister(s), in fact in earlier times they were planning to fit 4 of this missile into Penguin canisters (or a canister in similar dimensions).

Ermmm huh.. What happened to TEI engine ?

The missile's diameter was updated as well, after hearing this i first assumed it was related to an increase in the warhead, my expectation for warhead was around 100 kg.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509448263535054852

 

[Bogeyman]

Can you do a ÇAKIR comparison with NSM and or JSM?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1509449692991700994

I told İbrahim Sünnetçi. I'll post the chart if it's ready.

 

[Bogeyman]

It is all good, but at least at this point i was expecting to see a quad-packed canister just as Rafael's sea-breaker. That kind of canisters dramatically reduce the replenishment time in harbor and replenishment time is critical for USV and FACs.

4 Cakir on a Coastal Defence Missile system's launcher unit is quite a little. There should be at least 8 per 6x6 , 4 per 4x4 carrier.

Navy also wants such a practical way with canister(s), in fact in earlier times they were planning to fit 4 of this missile into Penguin canisters (or a canister in similar dimensions).

USVs already have 8 missiles. I think you missed that part.

 

[Bogeyman]

İbrahim Sünnetçi said that the Çakır mini cruise missile can also be fired from mini submarines in capsules.

 

[Anmdt]

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USVs already have 8 missiles. I think you missed that part.

Check out Sea-Breaker's canister you will see what i do mean by that. We need that kind of a launcher which is way more compact and easy to replenish then what Roketsan shows. Also that kind of launcher eases pop-up or embedded applications for FACs, USVs.

And my concern was about units on the coastal defense carrier's not the USVs.

 

[Anmdt]

İbrahim Sünnetçi said that the Çakır mini cruise missile can also be fired from mini submarines in capsules.

Anything launching a HWT may launch Gezgin, Kara Atmaca, Atmaca. Sparing a 533mm tube for this mini missile is nothing but a waste.
However if someone comes with an intelligent idea to install a LWT tube on midget submarines, then this missile is going to be meaningful.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Anything launching a HWT may launch Gezgin, Kara Atmaca, Atmaca. Sparing a 533mm tube for this mini missile is nothing but a waste.
However if someone comes with an intelligent idea to install a LWT tube on midget submarines, then this missile is going to be meaningful.

Fully agree with you. When you have limited number of tubes and missile storage spaces available, you would want to use them for your most “meaningful” and relevant weapons.
Nothing can replace the devastation caused by an under hull explosion of a heavy weight torpedo. So you would only use even an Atmaca from those tubes, when you need a long range target attack and that is the only choice.

 

[Hexciter]

 

[Hexciter]

 

[TheInsider]

Yeah, it seems like OMGSF and the Multi-Purpose missile project are merged and now ÇAKIR became a multi-purpose missile. ÇAKIR abbreviation must be something like "Çok Amaçlı KIzılötesi Roket" (Multi Purpose Infrared Rocket)

ÇAKIR will probably be fired from sea, air, and possibly land against sea and land targets. The range of the Çakır should have around 150km when fired from the surface and above 200km when fired from the air.

Çakır is not an anti-ship missile. It is a multi-purpose light cruise missile. Çakır started as an anti-ship missile but evolved into a multi-purpose missile.,

It will replace Maverick as well as Penguin.

 

[TNAHN]

You cannot sink a ship with a single missile. this includes the atmaca. because these are subsonic missiles they are easier to detect and destroy. You have to send many missiles to the enemy target. that is, you have to perform a saturation attack and disable the enemy air defense systems. do you want to use atmaca or çakır for saturation attack? çakır's fired from drones will make less number of atmaca missiles fired from ships more effective.

 

[Combat-Master]

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Anti-Everything

 

[Abdelaziz]

Hope to see its firing tests soon