TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[Osman]

So an air to ground version willl be designed. Atmaca (ssm version) weighs 750 kg. Akıncı will cary up to 2 atmacas. How cost effective is this choice when it can carry 4 çakır missiles?

 

[Baris]

So an air to ground version willl be designed. Atmaca (ssm version) weighs 750 kg. Akıncı will cary up to 2 atmacas. How cost effective is this choice when it can carry 4 çakır missiles?

It's not about cost effectiveness, Çakır might not be able to reach some of the targets so we need Akıncı with Atmaca increased range because it is dropped from the air.

 

[Huelague]

So an air to ground version willl be designed. Atmaca (ssm version) weighs 750 kg. Akıncı will cary up to 2 atmacas. How cost effective is this choice when it can carry 4 çakır missiles?

Depend on the mission. If you want to damage two frigates, take two ATMACA. If the mission is to destroy 4 FAC, use 4 CAKIR.

 

[Combat-Master]

So an air to ground version willl be designed. Atmaca (ssm version) weighs 750 kg. Akıncı will cary up to 2 atmacas. How cost effective is this choice when it can carry 4 çakır missiles?

Akinici will not carry any ATMACAs. There are better options such as SOM series of cruise missiles that are designed specifically for air carry and launch. Whoever is pushing the ATMACA on AKINCI BS has no clue.

 

[Osman]

Interesting. Retired general from Turaf Mr Karakuş:

We have had ballistic missile with a range of 1000 km in our inventory for 25 years. The range of the Tayfun is not 561 km, but much more. We have not disclosed them until now in order not to create tension in international affairs. Since we don't have enough space, we launch the missiles at a righter angle. If we had a base in Somalia, you would see that we could realise tests 3 to 4 thousand km towards the ocean. (he implies the balistic missile, called "Tufan" by Harzemşah (a Turkish defence industry enthusiast who was active in Turkish forums). A few years ago General Karakuş made a statement about balistic missile which has a range of 2 000 km and which is in the inventory. I had posted it a few days ago.)

 

[Combat-Master]

Interesting. Retired general from Turaf Mr Karakuş:

We have had ballistic missile with a range of 1000 km in our inventory for 25 years. The range of the Tayfun is not 561 km, but much more. We have not disclosed them until now in order not to create tension in international affairs. Since we don't have enough space, we launch the missiles at a righter angle. If we had a base in Somalia, you would see that we could realise tests 3 to 4 thousand km towards the ocean. (he implies the balistic missile, called "Tufan" by Harzemşah (a Turkish defence industry enthusiast who was active in Turkish forums). A few years ago General Karakuş made a statement about balistic missile which has a range of 2 000 km and which is in the inventory. I had posted it a few days ago.)

If that were the case we wouldn't have such a lengthy period of developing space launch vehicles... Roketsan, master of adaptation would have used these fictional 2,000km BM's rocket motors for SLV development.

 

[Combat-Master]

Did he mean that some engineers leave Roketsan to work aborad?

He is asked,
"In some sectors of Turkish Defence Industry we have foreign engineers participating in the development of systems, is that the case for Roketsan, are there foreign engineers in Roketsan? Are you open in this area for foreign engineers"

He Responds,
"No - we aren't open for foreign engineers"

Reporter asks,
"Is it because there isn't a need"

He Responds,
"Yes, there isn't a need - also because of highly classified nature of our work it wouldn't be possible"
"Till this point, Roketsan has not employed foreign engineers nor do we envisage to employ foreign engineers in the future".

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I think that's pretty clear cut, there isn't a need for foreign engineers nor is there a brain vacuum created by engineers working abroad.

 

[Tornadoss]

So an air to ground version willl be designed. Atmaca (ssm version) weighs 750 kg. Akıncı will cary up to 2 atmacas. How cost effective is this choice when it can carry 4 çakır missiles?

I am not sure Akinci can carry Atmaca on the wing pylon, maybe on the fuselage.

 

[NitricAcid]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1584183172807684103

 

[Combat-Master]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1584183172807684103

That's BORA, infact - I'm having second thoughts on whether TAYFUN exists, or just something media made up.

Forinstance, yellow blow out panels on BORA

Looks identical to the one on supposed TAYFUN footage

 

[iceream]

That's BORA, infact - I'm having second thoughts on whether TAYFUN exists, or just something media made up.

Forinstance, yellow blow out panels on BORA
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Looks identical to the one on supposed TAYFUN footage
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What's the specifications of the two missile bcs they look very similar

 

[Rodeo]

That's BORA, infact - I'm having second thoughts on whether TAYFUN exists, or just something media made up.

Forinstance, yellow blow out panels on BORA
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Looks identical to the one on supposed TAYFUN footage
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The president confirmed it.

TAYFUN Füzesi İçin İlk Resmi Açıklama Erdoğan'dan Geldi

Cumhurbaşkanı Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, TAYFUN Füzesi ile ilgili açıklamalarda bulundu. Böylelikle TAYFUN Füzesi'nin testi, ilk kez resmi olarak teyit edilmiş oldu.

www.savunmasanayist.com

 

[Combat-Master]

The president confirmed it.

TAYFUN Füzesi İçin İlk Resmi Açıklama Erdoğan'dan Geldi

Cumhurbaşkanı Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, TAYFUN Füzesi ile ilgili açıklamalarda bulundu. Böylelikle TAYFUN Füzesi'nin testi, ilk kez resmi olarak teyit edilmiş oldu.

www.savunmasanayist.com

Thanks, had to look further into it just to make sure.

 

[Radonsider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1584183172807684103

Thats a Volat TEL

So yeah this is old.

This means we already had Tayfun in our inventory??

 

[Baryshx]

That's BORA, infact - I'm having second thoughts on whether TAYFUN exists, or just something media made up.

Forinstance, yellow blow out panels on BORA
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Looks identical to the one on supposed TAYFUN footage
View attachment 49338

It has already been approved, that is a separate issue, but it is quite natural for two different missiles to be fired from the same launcher. There are the same applications in China, where we acquired and subsequently developed the ballistic missile infrastructure. Shooting different missiles from the same launcher...

 

[bisbis]

Mr Ikinci: "Our anti-tank missiles are powerful enough to penetrate 1 meter steel"

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The ability to pierce 1 meter of steel is sufficient for an anti-tank missile.

But what I'm curious about is the effectiveness of our Umtas, Omtas, L Umtas, Karaok missiles against Reactive armors.

Because the most effective armor against an anti-tank missile is reactive armor.

Of course, there are active protection systems.

There is no information, document or image about the event yet.

The only information that comforts me is that these missiles are equipped with tandem warheads.

In other words, the first warhead detonates the reactive armor of the target tank and clears the way for the second warhead.

Perhaps Roketsan has tested these missiles against reactive armor in the test environment. But that's what we don't know.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

That's BORA, infact - I'm having second thoughts on whether TAYFUN exists, or just something media made up.

Forinstance, yellow blow out panels on BORA
View attachment 49337

Looks identical to the one on supposed TAYFUN footage
View attachment 49338

Perhaps its the same missile BORA=TAYFUN but Turkiye used some foreign parts to Bora and range should be under 300km mtrc , while after Turkiye produced 100% with local tech all the missile and range can go until all the fuel is spent . Bora look too big to be just 280 km thats my opinion

 

[bisbis]

If that were the case we wouldn't have such a lengthy period of developing space launch vehicles... Roketsan, master of adaptation would have used these fictional 2,000km BM's rocket motors for SLV development.

It may not be as you say. Because in-atmospheric ballistic orbiting missiles can operate on solid fuel. However, after a certain height, conditions such as liquid or mixed fuels and oxygen supplementation are required instead of solid fuel due to the lack of oxygen and the absence of oxygen at the space stage. Now I think this technology is working in rocketsan or Delta v. I think we can make an extra-atmospheric long-range missile after space studies.

 

[NitricAcid]

 

[Fighter_35]

Those who complained that the state did not respond when Greece made a military build-up on the islands now complain that we threaten Greece. What a comedy though.

Yes, Greeks not just made build ups but put hands on many islands thx to akp!!
Due elections we see our secrets are shown!! What can Turkey say if USA gives thaad missiles to Greeks or himars missiles with ranges up to 500 km??
These missiles are our secret powers.not.just deterrence!!