TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

[TheInsider]

Looks like air-launched artillery rocket/ballistic missile.

 

[Strong AI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1945744540771504443

 

[Turkic]

We might see Akbaba on Idef this year. Some sources ,including gdh, are making news about Akbaba. 5 days left to the fair

 

[TheInsider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1945877188613480813

Ramjet air-to-air missile suitable for internal weapons bay with foldable fins.

 

[Strong AI]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1945877188613480813

Ramjet air-to-air missile suitable for internal weapons bay with foldable fins.

Are you sure that it is not Akbaba (Ramjet too)? Because Gökhan is from Tubitak Sage.

 

[Radko]

Are you sure that it is not Akbaba (Ramjet too)? Because Gökhan is from Tubitak Sage.

Roketsan's post states "beyond visual range"

 

[Sanchez]

Because Gökhan is from Tubitak Sage

SOM used to be from SAGE as well. It changed a bit now after 2022 but SAGE is still mainly an R&D facility, not a manufacturing one.

BVR long range missile with folding fins? Has to be for Kaan.

 

[Ahlatshah]

BVR long range missile with folding fins? Has to be for Kaan.

And has to be a ramjet

 

[Strong AI]

SOM used to be from SAGE as well. It changed a bit now after 2022 but SAGE is still mainly an R&D facility, not a manufacturing one.

Yes i know, but did Roketsan exhibit Tubitak products in the past? For example afaik Gökdogan/Bozdogan was only seen at Tubitak Sage stand.

 

[Sanchez]

Yes i know, but did Roketsan exhibit Tubitak products in the past? For example afaik Gökdogan/Bozdogan was only seen at Tubitak Sage stand.

Again, SOM. Should be interesting to see what they've come up with.

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ROKETSAN General Manager Murat Ikinci: IDEF 2025 Defense Industry Fair

We will show ballistic, cruise, air defense and air-to-air missiles.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946125207220912317

 

[uçuyorum]

Yes i know, but did Roketsan exhibit Tubitak products in the past? For example afaik Gökdogan/Bozdogan was only seen at Tubitak Sage stand.

Maybe why Gürcan Okumuş left? There was something about resisting something they made being transferred to another company

 

[Strong AI]

Again, SOM. Should be interesting to see what they've come up with.

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ROKETSAN General Manager Murat Ikinci: IDEF 2025 Defense Industry Fair

We will show ballistic, cruise, air defense and air-to-air missiles.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946125207220912317

Then where is Akbaba? According to 2023 annual report of Tubitak, its antenna layout is ready. Does solid fuel Ramjet take longer than gel based fuel Ramjet?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Then where is Akbaba? According to 2023 annual report of Tubitak, its antenna layout is ready. Does solid fuel Ramjet take longer than gel based fuel Ramjet?

If you mean to develop; logically yes. Once you have mastered the ramjet propulsion, usually through liquid fuel systems, then you may tackle the problem of adapting it to solid fuel.
Solid fuelled missile systems are like glorified and fine tuned firework missiles. When you add to this a throttle ability too it becomes a very sensitive and intricate technology to develop.
With liquid fuelled ramjet, you have a fuel tank and fuel injection system to regulate the amount of fuel being burnt. Yet with solid fuel it is much harder to control fuel burn. For this reason, the fuel in Meteor is stuck to the inner periphery of the combustion chamber and can only be burnt when it is peeled off in layers in an ablative manner by special airjets. By adjusting the amount being peeled off the speed of the missile is regulated.

Meteor is a 3.7m long , 178mm diameter 190kg missile. Can be carried inside F35 and presumably KAAN too.
Gökhan needs separate fuel tank and is approximately 5m long, 200mm diameter, 300-400kg missile. How they are going to fit it in to KAAN’s weapon bays is a mystery.

 

[Turkic]

Meteor is a 3.7m long , 178mm diameter 190kg missile. Can be carried inside F35 and presumably KAAN too.
Gökhan needs separate fuel tank and is approximately 5m long, 200mm diameter, 300-400kg missile. How they are going to fit it in to KAAN’s weapon bays is a mystery.

Can Gökhan be as agile as Meteor with such size and weight? And how would these numbers affect NEZ?