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[Latebra Factum]

I am not well informed or acquainted with the Morocco-Algeria issue.
What is the actual cause? some gas and oil findings in disputed territory?

Long story short : they want to access the Atlantic ocean by funding a terrorist group called POLISARIO , we had many wars against them in the 70s and the 80s , which we won , but with the constant funding by Algeria , the UN made a DMZ between our Sahara just to limit the confrontations , the POLISARIO claim that this DMZ is a "liberated zone" , but in fact , it's a restricted Moroccan-UN zone , Algeria sees this situation , and pushes civilians to the DMZ , just to be killed by our drones , and for Algeria , it's a reason to attack morocco (we already liquidated Algerian civilians 2 times , but they didn't do shit) , now , we're at a stalemate , neither morocco can retake the DMZ without a viable provocation from Algeria or POLISARIO (like killing Moroccan civilians or pushing into the DMZ) , neither Algeria and Polisario can enter the buffer zones because it's heavily guarded by drones an protected by a lot of advanced weapon systems , if they do that , Algeria will be history .

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Long story short : they want to access the Atlantic ocean by funding a terrorist group called POLISARIO , we had many wars against them in the 70s and the 80s , which we won , but with the constant funding by Algeria , the UN made a DMZ between our Sahara just to limit the confrontations , the POLISARIO claim that this DMZ is a "liberated zone" , but in fact , it's a restricted Moroccan-UN zone , Algeria sees this situation , and pushes civilians to the DMZ , just to be killed by our drones , and for Algeria , it's a reason to attack morocco (we already liquidated Algerian civilians 2 times , but they didn't do shit) , now , we're at a stalemate , neither morocco can retake the DMZ without a viable provocation from Algeria or POLISARIO (like killing Moroccan civilians or pushing into the DMZ) , neither Algeria and Polisario can enter the buffer zones because it's heavily guarded by drones an protected by a lot of advanced weapon systems , if they do that , Algeria will be history .

Just a correction to make! Algeria is the only one in this conflict that makes the "claim" that Morocco is hitting civilians, but it's well known by video footage that these are mercenaries often coming from Algeria to use the hit, and run tactics. However, any system that enters the buffer zone gets liquidated by often drone strikes. Mauritania had similar issues but they have now started closing the borders to not let their gold miners approach our buffer zone.

 

[Latebra Factum]

Just a correction to make! Algeria is the only one in this conflict that makes the "claim" that Morocco is hitting civilians, but it's well known by video footage that these are mercenaries often coming from Algeria to use the hit, and run tactics. However, any system that enters the buffer zone gets liquidated by often drone strikes. Mauritania had similar issues but they have now started closing the borders to not let their gold miners approach our buffer zone.

these alleged civilians are one of two
-- Algerian military servicemen (as confirmed by corpses photos )
-- Polisario militiamen
and i suspect the first option
it's not only drones, it's precise artillery strikes , smart munitions ,...

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

these alleged civilians are one of two
-- Algerian military servicemen (as confirmed by corpses photos )
-- Polisario militiamen
and i suspect the first option
it's not only drones, it's precise artillery strikes , smart munitions ,...

Most of the time, Polisario gets hit, but we know that some Algerians were present since we saw the condemnation of Algerian president Tedboune in late 2021. We could assume that they are helping them with installing different types of systems such as air defense systems. We got an audio leak by the Polisario where they share their frustration with the Algerians regarding getting bombed by drones a lot. Their morale is decreasing a lot, and their cause will be dead when Morocco decides to end the conflict.

 

[v.Kruska]

Thanks guys for the history refresher, I had totally forgotten about this 1970's Polisario/Western Sahara issue.

So is it the "locals" aka Sahrawis who want their own country in the part that previously was ceded to Mauritania and then unilaterally annexed by Morocco or simply Algeria making use of that issue to further their own territorial benefit, interests?

 

[Latebra Factum]

Thanks guys for the history refresher, I had totally forgotten about this 1970's Polisario/Western Sahara issue.

So is it the "locals" aka Sahrawis who want their own country in the part that previously was ceded to Mauritania and then unilaterally annexed by Morocco or simply Algeria making use of that issue to further their own territorial benefit, interests?

It's algeria that funds them with huge amounts of weapons and money dried from the petrol exports and from the algerian citizen , algeria only wants an entrance to the Atlantic , that's all , there is no sahrawi country, nothing , just a militia trained by iranian dogs , almost every week , we kill tens of them using drones and other methods , no one owns the area , it's pure moroccan , and everyone who tests us , we'll arrange him a meeting with god SWT

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Thanks guys for the history refresher, I had totally forgotten about this 1970's Polisario/Western Sahara issue.

So is it the "locals" aka Sahrawis who want their own country in the part that previously was ceded to Mauritania and then unilaterally annexed by Morocco or simply Algeria making use of that issue to further their own territorial benefit, interests?

What they call the "western-sahara" conflict is purely artificial created by the Algerian and the west. Like our last king mentioned king Hassan, said that this issue is done by big "powers" that want to slow down Morocco. At that time he was referring to mainly France, but also Spain. Most of the so-called Sahrawis live in the city of layouune, and the region has in fact the highest GDP in hole Morocco. The Sahara, as well as Mauritania was historically Moroccan, and that's why King Hassan did not recognize Mauritania in over 9 years.

So to put this into context, this issue is greater than Algeria. However, Algeria wanted this piece of land, as well as access to the Atlantic Ocean. They fear that when the Moroccans control Sahara, then they will look to get back the lost territory in eastern Algeria, in the cities of especially Tindouf-Axis.

 

[v.Kruska]

......So to put this into context, this issue is greater than Algeria. However, Algeria wanted this piece of land, as well as access to the Atlantic Ocean. They fear that when the Moroccans control Sahara, then they will look to get back the lost territory in eastern Algeria, in the cities of especially Tindouf-Axis.

Thanks guys for your straight forward approach or statement - it clarifies the situation, respectively Algeria's obvious "real-interests".

So just for me to get things right, there is no justifiable cause by an actual Sahwari led independence struggle, whereas the Sahwari's "naturally" would welcome any kind of assistance - just as in the 70's ? I got a bit of a problem with this "artificial created" by the West and Algeria.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Thanks guys for your straight forward approach or statement - it clarifies the situation, respectively Algeria's obvious "real-interests".

So just for me to get things right, there is no justifiable cause by an actual Sahwari led independence struggle, whereas the Sahwari's "naturally" would welcome any kind of assistance - just as in the 70's ?

It's in the Algerian interest, but this conflict is much bigger than Algeria, and we Moroccans are well aware of who is pulling the strings. I would not say its a cause by "Sahrawis" because the Sahrawis that live under Moroccan sovereignty have given the "bayaah" or allegiance to Morocco since the times of the Almoravid dynasty 1000 years ago. They also fought for the Moroccan king in the 1900s against the Spanish-franco alliance against Morocco. Just to point out the "sahrawi" people are a term used that the people are from the "sahara". The Sahara in Africa stretches all the way from Morocco in the west to Sudan in the east.

Now back to your question! The "Polisario" militias and not the Sahrawis are still getting assistance from Algeria, but also from Iran. However time has changed, and Morocco is too strong for them in both their military power and soft power. Their cause is dead..

 

[Afif]

Bro, that is a really good deal. Hopefully we can get a similar one with our attack helicopter purchase.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Bro, that is a really good deal. Hopefully we can get a similar one with our attack helicopter purchase.

Yes, it's a good deal, and I hope we will hear about bigger deals soon. Morocco has a well-established aviation ecosystem in place so such a deal is feasible, and I hope we will go for production, as well as assembling more F15/F16 in Morocco to replace our 48 F1 mirages, and F-5. If Bangladesh has the necessary infrastructure in the aerospace industries then such a deal would be open for negotiations, however, let's not forget that we are considered a strategic ally of the US in the African continent.

 

[Afif]

Yes, it's a good deal, and I hope we will hear about bigger deals soon. Morocco has a well-established aviation ecosystem in place so such a deal is feasible, and I hope we will go for production, as well as assembling more F15/F16 in Morocco to replace our 48 F1 mirages, and F-5. If Bangladesh has the necessary infrastructure in the aerospace industries then such a deal would be open for negotiations, however, let's not forget that we are considered a strategic ally of the US in the African continent.

Not US actually, recently Turkish ambassador gave a hint about cooperation on helicopter with BD.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Confirmation of Morocco acquiring the PULS launcher from elbitsystem with ranges up to 300 km. We can assume that the C4I combat NG system that you see in the pictures below will be the structure for our air defense, and long-range artillery umbrella. An unknown quantity of how many PULS launchers are acquired however we can see from the presentation that its talks about a "battalion" size.

Rumors: Another barak MX deal to boost the numbers, as well as the introduction of another air defense system.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1628156330816032768

 

[Afif]

Confirmation of Morocco acquiring the PULS launcher from elbitsystem with ranges up to 300 km. We can assume that the C4I combat NG system that you see in the pictures below will be the structure for our air defense, and long-range artillery umbrella. An unknown quantity of how many PULS launchers are acquired however we can see from the presentation that its talks about a "battalion" size.

Rumors: Another barak MX deal to boost the numbers, as well as the introduction of another air defense system.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1628156330816032768

Do we know how many barak battery Morocco already bought?

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Do we know how many barak battery Morocco already bought?

Not disclosed however the deal is reportedly a 500-600 million deal.

 

[Latebra Factum]

Not disclosed however the deal is reportedly a 500-600 million deal.

As the first payement, not the entire deal's worth

 

[Latebra Factum]

Confirmation of Morocco acquiring the PULS launcher from elbitsystem with ranges up to 300 km. We can assume that the C4I combat NG system that you see in the pictures below will be the structure for our air defense, and long-range artillery umbrella. An unknown quantity of how many PULS launchers are acquired however we can see from the presentation that its talks about "battalions" size.

Rumors: Another barak MX deal to boost the numbers, as well as the introduction of another air defense system.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1628156330816032768

"Bataillons" as multiple bataillons , not just one

 

[Latebra Factum]

Do we know how many barak battery Morocco already bought?

Enough to cover our entire land

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

South Zone SF Group hosted, from December 9 to 29, 2022, in Tifnit, the first edition of "Annasr" exercise.

This exercise is part of #Moroccan Armed Forces training program, aimed at enhancing their level of combat readiness in a changing and uncertain operational context. The maneuver had different elements from the special forces in southern region, 1st/2nd BIP/ Paratroopers, 1 BCA (Mountain commando units ), as well as different commando units from the gendarmerie, air force commando (Airborn), and Royal Navy Intervention commandos.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1628760266300178433

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Interesting development! Chief of staff Mark Milley, and also the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff visit Morocco for the first time in history.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632741771749761027