TR Naval Programs

[Afif]

If y'all want cheap ships you gotta make more of 'em. Make that "economies of scale" phenomenon your b*tch like Elon Musk.

Despite achieving near-complete indigenization on naval tech, Turkish Navy still chases 1-to-1 replacements. that's not very cash money, especially If one counts in the fact that the US is eyeing for a brawl with us in the future.

Make those drydocks go BRRRRRRRRRRRRR, for the love of the country!

If USA is planning brawl with you, you are done anyway. Basing your future naval strategy on such hypothetical scenario is not reasonable IMO.

 

[UkroTurk]

Let Turkish new frigates, Corvettes cost one billion per ship! What kind of burden would they bring on Turkish economy since they are made in Türkiye.

For instance if we load all ships with AESA radars and Göksur missiles, would it be burden on Turkish economy?

I don't think! İt won't be a burden since ASELSAN already paid machinery and paying stuff salary. Cost of Raw materials are not significant.

 

[Brave Janissary]

Bro's I have an idea ;

What do you think about unmanned vls ships for escorting Frigates ?

All of us know our ships have limited sizes and limited vls capacity for air defence etc. On the other hand there are more navies in the world who have same situation.

We can add a 8x vls to unmanned surface vessels and add him to our frigates for escorts. Our frigates can control siper&hisar missiles via datalink on unmanned surface vessels.

With help of that we can launch more missiles from our ships without enlarging, cutting and entering overhaull. Also this ships can resistable sea state 5-6 and if required they can tow with main frigate and last one they can attach and deattach from fillolita or formation if not required and can attach another ship in the region on operation area.

What a you think ?

 

[uçuyorum]

Bro's I have an idea ;

What you think about unmanned vls ships for escorting Frigates ?

All of us know our ships have a limited sizes and limited vls capacity for air defence etc. On the other hand there are more navies in the world who have same situation.

We can add a 8x vls to unmanned surface vessels and add him to our frigates for escorts. Our frigates can control siper&hisar missiles via datalink on unmanned surface vessels.

With help of that we can launch more missiles from our ships without enlarging, cutting and entering overhaull. Also this ships can resistable sea state 5-6 and if required they can tow with main frigate and last one they can attach and deattach from fillolita or formation if not required and can attach another ship in the region on operation area.

What a you think ?

They will end up being big and expensive if they are to withstand harsh sea conditions and have meaningful endurance

 

[Bogeyman]

Hisar Class Offshore Patrol Ships TCG AKHİSAR and TCG KOÇHİSAR

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705514122568245455

 

[boredaf]

Bro's I have an idea ;

What you think about unmanned vls ships for escorting Frigates ?

All of us know our ships have a limited sizes and limited vls capacity for air defence etc. On the other hand there are more navies in the world who have same situation.

We can add a 8x vls to unmanned surface vessels and add him to our frigates for escorts. Our frigates can control siper&hisar missiles via datalink on unmanned surface vessels.

With help of that we can launch more missiles from our ships without enlarging, cutting and entering overhaull. Also this ships can resistable sea state 5-6 and if required they can tow with main frigate and last one they can attach and deattach from fillolita or formation if not required and can attach another ship in the region on operation area.

What a you think ?

Vls doesn't really make sense imo as it would require USVs to be too big but if we do something like Atılgan with an USV instead of an M113 we can at least use them for SHORAD in dangerous areas. Just imagine that turret on something like Ulaq with maybe 20mm gun instead of 12.7 with 8 or more Sungur, which has 8km range.

 

[Sanchez]

Hisar Class Offshore Patrol Ships TCG AKHİSAR and TCG KOÇHİSAR

A little China-ing :3

And somelovely shots of Istanbul and its Gökdeniz as well.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705518106716631521

And a question, what's this? Escalator for 35mm ammo boxes maybe?

 

[Aloster]

They will end up being big and expensive if they are to withstand harsh sea conditions and have meaningful endurance

May be they will be big and expensive like Onuk Mrtp 33 but if them integrated to Kement system with aid Ships main radar self defence capabilities increased enourmously for crewed ships. U can simultaneously fire more air defence missile also capabilities and also crewed ships behave like more ranged missile system. Assume that 1 Ada with 2 unmanned Onuk 33 each of them 10 mile away from Ada with aid of Ada radar they can engage target before Ada . At future also we can add them Anadolu to obtain unmanned CSG
Ps: Kaan 33 already can fire 4 Harpoon also we don't need vls for this ships. We also can fire missile inclined status. Also at future they can work with OPVS

 

[uçuyorum]

May be they will be big and expensive like Onuk Mrtp 33 but if them integrated to Kement system with aid Ships main radar self defence capabilities increased enourmously for crewed ships. U can simultaneously fire more air defence missile also capabilities and also crewed ships behave like more ranged missile system. Assume that 1 Ada with 2 unmanned Onuk 33 each of them 10 mile away from Ada with aid of Ada radar they can engage target before Ada . At future also we can add them Anadolu to obtain unmanned CSG

Ada class has an endurance of 3 weeks and can operate in sea state 5. MRTP 33 can withstand sea state 4 and has endurance of 3 days.

 

[Aloster]

MRTP 33 can withstand sea state 4 and has endurance of 3 days

As a manned 20 crew. Assume that without them, food , water with many other things removal it endurance increased enourmously. I cant say anything about sea State 4 and state 5 it is beyond my capabilities and knowledge.

 

[Sanchez]

And here is a MIDLAS close up.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705538430002688140

 

[Sanchez]

Family photo!
6 Milgem ships side by side. Left to right: Kaibar, Heybeliada, Istanbul, Babur, Akhisar, Koçhisar

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705574238403395841

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Hisar Class Offshore Patrol Ships TCG AKHİSAR and TCG KOÇHİSAR

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705514122568245455

-When will be ready for service ?
-And will navy equip those with SAMs and Antiship missiles ?

 

[guest12]

Hisar Class Offshore Patrol Ships TCG AKHİSAR and TCG KOÇHİSAR

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705514122568245455

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705553974995075200

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705550036724048008

 

[zio]

There is no gökdeniz on babur,why?

 

[Sanchez]

There is no gökdeniz on babur,why?

They went for a no CIWS configuration a la British. It carries 16 CAMM-ERs though.

 

[Heartbang]

Bro's I have an idea ;

What do you think about unmanned vls ships for escorting Frigates ?

All of us know our ships have limited sizes and limited vls capacity for air defence etc. On the other hand there are more navies in the world who have same situation.

We can add a 8x vls to unmanned surface vessels and add him to our frigates for escorts. Our frigates can control siper&hisar missiles via datalink on unmanned surface vessels.

With help of that we can launch more missiles from our ships without enlarging, cutting and entering overhaull. Also this ships can resistable sea state 5-6 and if required they can tow with main frigate and last one they can attach and deattach from fillolita or formation if not required and can attach another ship in the region on operation area.

What a you think ?

Slap this on a USV, bob's your uncle:

You could also use it on existing ships too, of course.

This Bolt-On Launcher Can Give Nearly Any Ship The Same Weaponry As A U.S. Navy Destroyer

The launcher could allow everything from amphibious assault ships to logistics ships to carry the Navy's most potent surface-launched missiles.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Heartbang]

If USA is planning brawl with you, you are done anyway. Basing your future naval strategy on such hypothetical scenario is not reasonable IMO.

...and Biden's a competent president, yeah?

 

[Afif]

...and Biden's a competent president, yeah?

What is that has to do with Naval strategy?

 

[Heartbang]

What is that has to do with Naval strategy?

Not much TBH. Which is about the same as your "there's no point fighting, just give up and assume the position" flavored point of view.

Even the mightiest fall. That's the way it is. I suggest you don't get carried away too much.