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I was thinking of what @Anmdt said, when I read the post, and was thinking if Turdef posted it, they must have asked the right questions, but I can't be sure.
 

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Yeah, while the drone is going on a straight line, with more cuts than Liam Neeson needs to jump a fence. Someone posted it in small drones topic.
I mean a video where the RCWS is on-the-move, so they show us the stabilisation capabilities of their product.
I have seen a video where they put it on a USV, but they shoot only while the USV is not moving and the water is very calm.
 

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Aircrafts to be used on MUGEM seems to be determined and are going to be:

- TB-3
- Anka-3
- Hürjet
- Kızılelma
(50 aircrafts at least)

TF-2000, MUGEM and MILDEN will not face production times up to 7 years, says Haluk Görgün. "Intensive studies are being carried out on where, how and by who these will be produced and what the design will be."
Perhaps it would have made more sense to develop the Hürjet 20-30% larger with 2 F-404 engines.... Additionally with a small internal weapons bay for 2-3 AAMs and a bit more stealth Design.
As it is now, it would always lose as a future naval version against Russia, China, India or France, e.g. as an aircraft on a carrier.
Without a catapult system, higher payloads are already out of the question, with only one F-404 engine you can't do anything with this aircraft, which is actually a training aircraft, even if you have STOBAR like on the carrier Mugem.
I doubt that Kizilelma as a wingman can somehow compensate for this weakness of the Hürjet as an interceptor if they fly together, the main platform Hürjet is simply 2 Levels too weak compared to a Rafaele M, J-35 & Co.

In a serious conflict where the conflicts will shift to Africa and Southeast Asia, you can't do anything with the current Hürjet as a naval version.
 
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Perhaps it would have made more sense to develop the Hürjet 20-30% larger with 2 F-404 engines.... Additionally with a small internal weapons bay for 2-3 AAMs and a bit more stealth Design.
As it is now, it would always lose as a future naval version against Russia, China, India or France, e.g. as an aircraft on a carrier.
Without a catapult system, higher payloads are already out of the question, with only one F-404 engine you can't do anything with this aircraft, which is actually a training aircraft, even if you have STOBAR like on the carrier Mugem.
I doubt that Kizilelma as a wingman can somehow compensate for this weakness of the Hürjet as an interceptor if they fly together, the main platform Hürjet is simply 2 Levels too weak compared to a Rafaele M, J-35 & Co.

In a serious conflict where the conflicts will shift to Africa and Southeast Asia, you can't do anything with the current Hürjet as a naval version.
MUGEM and it's task force will not be used to invade france, egypt or india, so that's fine. It's not supposed to fight head to head with major powers. If at most it can shoot outdated sukhoi planes in africa or something it will be fine. Otherwise the drones could be very useful extra piece in a nato task force in a major war if it really came to that.
 

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I mean a video where the RCWS is on-the-move, so they show us the stabilisation capabilities of their product.
I have seen a video where they put it on a USV, but they shoot only while the USV is not moving and the water is very calm.
Oh, sorry mate, I got you wrong. And I don't think they still showed that.
 

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So, they gonna use diesels only on TTHB, instead of diesel+gas turbine
I won't, once again, bother to find my post regarding to TTHB to clarify this. STM also shared TTHB visual at a fair, so it is not MPAC as is.

MPAC has 2/1* gas + 2 * diesel, 2/1 * diesel + 2/1 * diesel versions, and MPAC is not TTHB itself, it is a spin-off product sharing the common lay-out, displacement, and concept ( with nuances in between).
 

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If this is the final version that will be produced soon, it is a light corvette. The classical approach defines corvette as bigger than 500 tonnes and less than 2 000.

The navy continues to grow in terms of tonnage
 

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