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In order to crawl in the ass of a "party" that has close ties to a terrorist organization and their voter base, this Kemal Kilicdaroglu is shitting on Atatürks party principles + risking votes of their own Nationalist/Patriot voters.

Current political situation in Turkey... AKP is doing everything to lose it's own votes, KK is working in AKP's favour, tragicomedy.
 

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Interesting dynamic, whilst CHP is trying to attract Kurdish voters, iYi party may see a rise in support from AKP voters. Further, it's highly unlikely that MHP will support CHP if Kılıçdaroğlu continues to emphasise releasing notable figures and allowing HDP to have a greater role in decision making of the country.

I.e. one may see an iYi - MHP - exAKP voters base, should the CHP continue to appease HDP/Kurds.
 

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Interesting event, crazy but i respect reason and justification from past.


These organisations must be investigated. Could be led by Russian agents. Brings nothing positive to Turkey. In england we know all unions generally were run by marxist leaning entities.

Since erdogan came to power there has been a steady campaign where Turkey is made to look like the bad guy in the western world. The common man in england for example perceives erdogan as an islamic fascist dictator and defacto portrays the rest of Turkey as such.

Turkey being demonised in the western world benefits the greeks, the armeninas, the pkk and isreal as well as Russia. It does not benefit Turkey one bit.

The worse Turkeys reputation in the west is, the easier it is for the west to shut Turkish regional concerns down. The Islamic world on paper and geopolitically means nothing to Turkey.

Kemalist minded people do not behave in stupid ways, they are measured and intelligent in their actions. To me these actions stink of left leaning communist nonsense.
 

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These organisations must be investigated. Could be led by Russian agents. Brings nothing positive to Turkey. In england we know all unions generally were run by marxist leaning entities.

Since erdogan came to power there has been a steady campaign where Turkey is made to look like the bad guy in the western world. The common man in england for example perceives erdogan as an islamic fascist dictator and defacto portrays the rest of Turkey as such.

Turkey being demonised in the western world benefits the greeks, the armeninas, the pkk and isreal as well as Russia. It does not benefit Turkey one bit.

The worse Turkeys reputation in the west is, the easier it is for the west to shut Turkish regional concerns down. The Islamic world on paper and geopolitically means nothing to Turkey.

Kemalist minded people do not behave in stupid ways, they are measured and intelligent in their actions. To me these actions stink of left leaning communist nonsense.
I really do think that there are geniune people driven by certain ideologies who would be motivated to do stupid things like this in relation to country image. I am not fond of mudding water with various theories if such group really exist and have position like it is mentioned from some other member.
 

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Since erdogan came to power there has been a steady campaign where Turkey is made to look like the bad guy in the western world. The common man in england for example perceives erdogan as an islamic fascist dictator and defacto portrays the rest of Turkey as such.
I agree tbh
That is why I like Erdo; because he is pissing off the West
My political science teacher once told me that it is a common Western habit to portray those who they dont like as the "Bad" guy. They may use fancy looking terms like human rights, freedom, democracy and whatsoever but it all boils down to who is challenging their authority worldwide. The fact that Turkey is growing so much in the last decade appears to be a nightmare to the West
Turkey's scenario is similar to that of China.
Now look at what China has become

It is these events today that make me realise how much spot on he was
 
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That is why I like Erdo; because he is pissing off the West
My political science teacher once told me that it is a common Western habit to portray those who they dont like as the "Bad" guy. They may use fancy looking terms like human rights, freedom, democracy and whatsoever but it all boils down to who is challenging their authority worldwide. The fact that Turkey is growing so much in the last decade appears to be a nightmare to Turkey

It is these events today that make me realise how much spot on he was
Doesn't change the fact erdo is a corrupt leader who likes to make his people poorer everyday while making his own relatives richer put this on your mind you ain't the one suffering
 

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Interesting event, crazy but i respect reason and justification from past.

Ragip being a mouthpiece for the AKP as usual.

"nationalist Kemalist right-wing", y'know, except for the fact that they blatantly kiss the asses of Russia and China and are closer to cringy leftists than anything else.

Wonder if this is a false flag of some sort.
 

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Ragip being a mouthpiece for the AKP as usual.

"nationalist Kemalist right-wing", y'know, except for the fact that they blatantly kiss the asses of Russia and China and are closer to cringy leftists than anything else.

Wonder if this is a false flag of some sort.
Ragip is good journalist, your reasoning about this particular event is to partisaned, you either overestimate akp or underestimate this people stupidity.
 

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Ragip is good journalist, your reasoning about this particular event is to partisaned, you either overestimate akp or underestimate this people stupidity.
There is no partisan logic about it, the Turkish Youth Union can not in any sense be described as nationalist or right-wing. Kemalist is a word that can be used only loosely in an economic sense, in the same way you could describe National Socialism as "leftist".
 

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There is no partisan logic about it, the Turkish Youth Union can not in any sense be described as nationalist or right-wing. Kemalist is a word that can be used only loosely in an economic sense, in the same way you could describe National Socialism as "leftist".
yes, but how do you associate those with akp "conspiracy"?
 

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Where did I mention an AKP conspiracy?
you did not but implied that Ragip is akp mouth piece and i draw conclusion that you might think that akp has something to do with event as some other members also think like that, if i am wrong i apologize.
 

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you did not but implied that Ragip is akp mouth piece and i draw conclusion that you might think that akp has something to do with event as some other members also think like that, if i am wrong i apologize.
Ragip ragging on about TYU being Kemalists is quite par for the course for the kind of rhetoric AKP likes to promote though that doesn't mean Ragip is on their payroll or anything. As for the "false flag" comment, I was implying that this was possibly a stunt influenced by external forces, not necessarily AKP itself.

No need to apologize but now you know what I meant.
 

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Ragip being a mouthpiece for the AKP as usual.

"nationalist Kemalist right-wing", y'know, except for the fact that they blatantly kiss the asses of Russia and China and are closer to cringy leftists than anything else.

Wonder if this is a false flag of some sort.
They are part of the Kemalist world, too. Believe it or not. This group is not new neither is it made up by Ragip. They're heavily pro-Russian and a disgrace to Atatürk's legacy.
 

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Ragip ragging on about TYU being Kemalists is quite par for the course for the kind of rhetoric AKP likes to promote though that doesn't mean Ragip is on their payroll or anything. As for the "false flag" comment, I was implying that this was possibly a stunt influenced by external forces, not necessarily AKP itself.

No need to apologize but now you know what I meant.
ok, no need to drag Ragip around the event and dilute essence of the this crazy shit done by those youngsters, it is something that chp supporters and party has to deal with. no use in denying that.
 

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AK party sided with every traitor to the republic, whether it be FETO, whether it be the PKK, whether it be sucking off the Russians, then to make matters worse they ended up destroying all relations that Turkey is the only nation on earth who has to worry about fighting a war against Russia and the USA at the same time. Every other nation on earth whose against the USA gets Russian support and Vice versa. Only erdogan and AK party created a situation where even in Syria most the of Islamist groups operating their are even against AK party.

Just like in Afghanistan where even the Taliban told erdogan to leave the airport with the americans.

Meanwhile we constantly here anti-Kemalist talk from these jokers, these weak pathetic corrupt fools. How these snakes hid behind the religion is maybe the most disgraceful thing about them.

These demons who intentionally polarise the nation, intentionally create discord among the people and harm the peace of the nation, just so the thief's can remain in power.
 

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