TR Politics

[Ravenman]

You should read the "Mutabakat Metni"(Consensus Text). These are the actions that the opposition will take after they win(if) the elections. So they have thousands of points they(the six) have already agreed upon. I don't think this was the case with the previous coalitions. Even if they carried out half of the list, it would still be revolutionary for the country.

Mutabakat Metni(Consensus Text)

Read page 125 about the Defence Sector. Its very, very disturbing and dangerous.

They will cancel and close weaponproject just to please their friends from the HDP and the Greek government.

I will never ever vote for a party that called Turkish drones 'weapons of mass destruction that took thousands of innocent lives'.

 

[Asena_great]

advice from south azerbaycan turk everyone must hear

he says that he hate islamist for 44 years they ruled iran and don't believe the islamist they only know how to cut and kill they will only impoverished you they don't know anything about politics or economy our life is over we are old now but it will be yazik for you youth if turkey become iran

Ruhollah Khomeini leader of islamic revelution of iran when his tarikat took over iran they force everyone into sharia law

women march Against Compulsory Hijab meet with knives and gun of islamists

at the summer of 1980 he execute 30000 political prisioner for opposing islamic law thus committing apostasy

he then go on crusaded to export his islamic revelution across islamic world . his movement become the origion of creation of many tarikat in turkey

by the end of the same summer (12 eylul) that Khomeini excecated 30k political prisoners general kenan stage a coup crush those tarikat connected to iranian regime

here general kenan evren warn that the reasons and condition that forced us 12 eylul should not be forgotten otherwise in the future you would not understand the 80s

here in this video general ismail hakkı karadayı explain all the horror he foresaw in the future. how true his prediction turns out to be

 

[Rodeo]

Read page 125 about the Defence Sector. Its very, very disturbing and dangerous.

Can you quote the article you find very dangerous?

 

[YeşilVatan]

God I love vulgar political discourse lol

Founding Father of our country, Marshal Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (durağı Uçmak olsun) cannot be equated with primitive fundamentalist cavemen. However, arguing over who is considered a terrorist or not is a waste of time if not counterproductive. All sides can just accept Said was a jumped-up lowly chieftain who thought he could defeat the glorious Turkish Armed Forces (spoiler alert, he did not) and he got what he deserved: gallows. Everyone who fought to quell his pathetic excuse of a rebellion is a hero of the nation, may Tengri rest their souls.

Imma drop some Carl Schmitt wisdom, Even if Ataturk was not as awesome he was, he was still "our guy". He was on our side. Some kurdish tribesmen armed by Britain wasn't. I'm glad those people met their end in a violent manner, and you should be, too.

In continuing with our boy Schmitt's line of thought, neither HDP nor kurdish hezbollah (hüdapar) are our friends. These people are enemies of the republic, enemies of Turkishness, enemies of human progress and logic, enemies of civilization. Which means they'd torture you and rape your wives and daughters, or at the very least show tacit support towards these acts. These are devious manipulators at best and bloothirsty ideologues at worst. They should be pushed out of social life at all costs, and maybe subjected to some form of harsher treatment, which I will not specify in an effort to not get banned.

Let's not insult each other gentlemen. Politely imply the other side should be subjected to brutal oppression instead. Makes for a more entertaining reading.

On a more constructive note, hüdapar's inclusion in the AKP camp potentially means two things.

1. They are going hard-right in order to consolidate against Kılıçdaoğlu. Yeniden Refah joining the aliance can be read in that light, too.
2. They are looking at poll data and freaking out.

 

[Kedikesenfare]

What's your point here? ISIS and PKK also kills each other. Both terrorists.

What's more funny is AKP is so insecure about the upcoming elections that they need support from extremists like Doğu Perinçek, Hizbullah, anti-vac conspiracy theorist Fatih Erbakan. As if these %0.1 parties gonna effect anything.

At the past Erdogan wouldn't even talk about these lunatics.

Don't act stupid, please. You're a grown man with a functioning brain to comprehend what my previously made points meant in the realm of the domestic Turkish politics.

HÜDA-PAR is not my cup of tea and you guys are fully aware of this, yet, unlike you and your friends, I am not going to deny the truth and facts of the PKK issue and everything that revolves around this subject.

Unlike PKK...

HÜDA-PAR does not attack Turkish soldiers.
HÜDA-PAR does not blow up busses of the local public transport system.
HÜDA-PAR does not deal with drugs.
HÜDA-PAR does not fight against our soldiers in Syria and Iraq.
HÜDA-PAR does not lobby in every single Western capital against Turkish interests.
HÜDA-PAR was against the Hendek war.

These are just a few examples. I could dig out more if necessary.

Nevertheless, unless HÜDA-Par becomes LGBTQ+ friendly and socially liberal, I am not going to cast my ballot for them. That's for sure. I will not reject societal realities either which you and your friends are doing.

If I had to make a choice between the two, I will take the ones who are not blowing themselves up in the public space. In this regard, AKP's cooperation with HÜDA-PAR is far, far more justifiable from a patriotic angle than CHP's [= pseudo-Kemalists] alliance with HDP/PKK.

100 years after the foundation of the Turkish Republic, Atatürk's party has decided to work and cooperate with PKK terrorists.

 

[Lool]

Disregarding our own political bias, lets just think about such statements for a while!

I still dont understand how on Earth is he planning to stop refugees influx when he wants to retreat from Syria, restore relations with the radical kurds under his diversity policy and when iYi wants to restore peace with Assad?

KK is stating what the ppl wants to hear in order to gain votes but without even the least common sense on how to even initiate his own promises

Translation:-
Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu announced that if he is elected as the President, he will send back the Syrian refugees in 2 years and close the borders to illegal crossings in the first week.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635654195436048384

 

[Sanchez]

Read page 125 about the Defence Sector. Its very, very disturbing and dangerous.

We quoted the entirety of that page the other day and openly talked about it here. It has no such notes that is "very disturbing and dangerous"

 

[Xenon54]

Unlike PKK...

HÜDA-PAR does not attack Turkish soldiers.
HÜDA-PAR does not blow up busses of the local public transport system.
HÜDA-PAR does not deal with drugs.
HÜDA-PAR does not fight against our soldiers in Syria and Iraq.
HÜDA-PAR does not lobby in every single Western capital against Turkish interests.
HÜDA-PAR was against the Hendek war.

Not yet, you just give them enough power and they might even stage a coup on you one day.
Oh wait, im getting a deja vu, where did i see this movie before?

You guys are never gonna learn...

 

[what]

Disregarding our own political bias, lets just think about such statements for a while!


KK is stating what the ppl wants to hear in order to gain votes but without even the least common sense on how to even initiate his own promises

Listen to yourself sometimes.

Disregard your own political bias and think about all the promises that the current government has been voicing for 20 years. The incumbent party has been constantly doing what you're accusing the opposition of. You can fill a book with examples of empty promises.

Now, I'm not saying that all election promises will be kept, thats usually not how things go. But the new contender usually gets the benefit of doubt. Plus its something that the Turkish electorate really wants.

 

[Manomed The Second]

I want to remind everyone that ravenman got banned a year ago for insulting our Founder Mustafa Kemal Atatürk he called him a traitor and talked how ottomans were much much better but in reality non turks like ravenman Im not claiming him a non turk he himself told the entire forum that he was zaza origin.

Im seeing lots of posts about him praising the ottoman and talking against the kemalist I must say under the rule of Kemalists these people knew where they came from and their history under the Atatürk these people were called the "GREAT TURKISH PEOPLE" under the ottoman rule were quote "illiterate turkomans" Anatolia was a wasteland under the ottomans but Atatürk evil because he made this people and country remember where they came from and developed it such that we are a regional superpower

Sheik said was a traitor and squashed like a traitor he was they attacked and killed turkish soldiers even turkmen villagers today you can see HDP and PKK praise sheik said a backwards english agent got what he deserved.

Im gonna say this last time @Ravenman a person who glorifies ww2 germany a person who believes into conspiracy theories If you don't like this republic you are welcome to return holland and If you Insult our founder again I will report you to the admins.

and again they hate the republic and love ottomans because under the ottomans they had more rights like today what akp is doing If a turk talks against the goverment It will be arrested but a pkk supporter or a refugee does the same nothing happens and we have seen that a lot of times.

Also the sheikh you are praising said this following "Killing one turk equals to killing 70 quffars" keep defending this terrorist scum

 

[Manomed The Second]

@what @Tonyukuk

 

[Ryder]

advice from south azerbaycan turk everyone must hear

he says that he hate islamist for 44 years they ruled iran and don't believe the islamist they only know how to cut and kill they will only impoverished you they don't know anything about politics or economy our life is over we are old now but it will be yazik for you youth if turkey become iran

Ruhollah Khomeini leader of islamic revelution of iran when his tarikat took over iran they force everyone into sharia law

women march Against Compulsory Hijab meet with knives and gun of islamists

at the summer of 1980 he execute 30000 political prisioner for opposing islamic law thus committing apostasy

he then go on crusaded to export his islamic revelution across islamic world . his movement become the origion of creation of many tarikat in turkey

by the end of the same summer (12 eylul) that Khomeini excecated 30k political prisoners general kenan stage a coup crush those tarikat connected to iranian regime

here general kenan evren warn that the reasons and condition that forced us 12 eylul should not be forgotten otherwise in the future you would not understand the 80s

here in this video general ismail hakkı karadayı explain all the horror he foresaw in the future. how true his prediction turns out to be

What difference does it make for Iranian Turks?

Secular Regime under the Shah oppressed them this continued under Khomeini.

Regardless if Iran is Secular or Theocratic. Persian Fascism stays the same.

Iranian Turks especially most are Shia should stop pledging loyalty to a regime that hates them.

Start linking up Turks. South Azerbaijan is the loudest one hopefully they unite with Azerbaijan.

 

[Ryder]

I want to remind everyone that ravenman got banned a year ago for insulting our Founder Mustafa Kemal Atatürk he called him a traitor and talked how ottomans were much much better but in reality non turks like ravenman Im not claiming him a non turk he himself told the entire forum that he was zaza origin.

Im seeing lots of posts about him praising the ottoman and talking against the kemalist I must say under the rule of Kemalists these people knew where they came from and their history under the Atatürk these people were called the "GREAT TURKISH PEOPLE" under the ottoman rule were quote "illiterate turkomans" Anatolia was a wasteland under the ottomans but Atatürk evil because he made this people and country remember where they came from and developed it such that we are a regional superpower

Sheik said was a traitor and squashed like a traitor he was they attacked and killed turkish soldiers even turkmen villagers today you can see HDP and PKK praise sheik said a backwards english agent got what he deserved.

Im gonna say this last time @Ravenman a person who glorifies ww2 germany a person who believes into conspiracy theories If you don't like this republic you are welcome to return holland and If you Insult our founder again I will report you to the admins.

and again they hate the republic and love ottomans because under the ottomans they had more rights like today what akp is doing If a turk talks against the goverment It will be arrested but a pkk supporter or a refugee does the same nothing happens and we have seen that a lot of times.

Also the sheikh you are praising said this following "Killing one turk equals to killing 70 quffars" keep defending this terrorist scum

Ottoman centralised the state in the 1800s hence why everybody rebelling as their stupid privledges began to be taken away.

From a agrarian and a feudal society to a modern one. Japan faced upheavels like this when its Samurai class feared their privleged lives will be taken away.

All that mumbo jumbo way of life being threatened is just romanticed bs talk.

We need to always look at why these rebellions happened in the first place.

The thing is you will always get different answers.

The Turkish republic when it was founded in 1923 had the same problem with the rebellions continuing. When it comes to rebellions Turks dont really waste time easily put it down.

That explains why separatist groups, communists, terrorists regardless of which ideology they followed have not been successful because the Turks easily put it down with military force.

Many politicians tried to solve it diplomatically but that always ends up in failure.

 

[Tonyukuk]

I can't believe there's people on this forum who are supporting Şeyh Said. He was literally a terrorist who launched an armed rebellion against the Turkish state.

As the final days of AKP tick the true colors of their supporters are becoming apparent.

Remember that in the 80s and 90s Kurdish Separatists and radical Islamists were a combined threat. Two sides of the same coin. Not much has changed since then, in fact it was always like that since the beginning of the Republic.

 

[Asena_great]

What difference does it make for Iranian Turks?

Secular Regime under the Shah oppressed them this continued under Khomeini.

you NEVER lived under sharia law you NEVER experienced that animalistic life style you are talking about things you dont know about

Iranian Turks especially most are Shia should stop pledging loyalty to a regime that hates them.

i think these videos are enough answer for you

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635884259054428160

CHP Deputy Sezgin Tanrıkulu promised with reference to Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu's speeches:

“Those who were dismissed from the state for being members of FETÖ and PKK will be reinstated in a month.”

"We will apologize to them with a one-item change, we will get halal and return them to their duties."

In short, CHP wants to end the fight against FETÖ and PKK. It seems likely that Fetö prosecutor Zekariya Öz and others will be reinstated.

In other words, teachers who sympathize with PKK terrorists will make pkk propaganda for your children. Fetöist judges and prosecutors will invent an imaginary organization and imprison innocent people.

 

[Manomed The Second]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635884259054428160

CHP Deputy Sezgin Tanrıkulu promised with reference to Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu's speeches:

“Those who were dismissed from the state for being members of FETÖ and PKK will be reinstated in a month.”

"We will apologize to them with a one-item change, we will get halal and return them to their duties."

In short, CHP wants to end the fight against FETÖ and PKK. It seems likely that Fetö prosecutor Zekariya Öz and others will be reinstated.

In other words, teachers who sympathize with PKK terrorists will make pkk propaganda for your children. Fetöist judges and prosecutors will invent an imaginary organization and imprison innocent people.

Are these guys purposelly trying to lose

 

[Rodeo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635884259054428160

CHP Deputy Sezgin Tanrıkulu promised with reference to Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu's speeches:

“Those who were dismissed from the state for being members of FETÖ and PKK will be reinstated in a month.”

"We will apologize to them with a one-item change, we will get halal and return them to their duties."

In short, CHP wants to end the fight against FETÖ and PKK. It seems likely that Fetö prosecutor Zekariya Öz and others will be reinstated.

In other words, teachers who sympathize with PKK terrorists will make pkk propaganda for your children. Fetöist judges and prosecutors will invent an imaginary organization and imprison innocent people.

He is a "blöder Affe" , who needs to be terminated, for sure. But in the video, I didn't hear any reference to FETÖ or PKK.

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635884259054428160

CHP Deputy Sezgin Tanrıkulu promised with reference to Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu's speeches:

“Those who were dismissed from the state for being members of FETÖ and PKK will be reinstated in a month.”

"We will apologize to them with a one-item change, we will get halal and return them to their duties."

In short, CHP wants to end the fight against FETÖ and PKK. It seems likely that Fetö prosecutor Zekariya Öz and others will be reinstated.

In other words, teachers who sympathize with PKK terrorists will make pkk propaganda for your children. Fetöist judges and prosecutors will invent an imaginary organization and imprison innocent people.

So chp did negotiationed with hdp behind closed doors , we now about feto like iyi parti, deva and party of that small fart davudoglu. They should gibe HDP Minister of Defence.

 

[Bogeyman]

He is a "blöder Affe" , who needs to be terminated, for sure. But in the video, I didn't hear any reference to FETÖ or PKK.

In the video, he talks about the reinstatement of those who were expelled from the state by decree. Who were the KHK people? It refers to those who were dismissed because of their membership or sympathy for the FETÖ and PKK. Everything is expected from these demons.