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“With the support of our Defense Industry Presidency, we are developing nickel alloy additive manufacturing technology used in aviation through our YAKUT Project.

Within the scope of the project, we have nationalized the critical capabilities for the production of functional engine parts from nickel superalloys that can operate under high temperature and pressure using the Laser Metal Powder Melting (LAM) method.

In additive manufacturing, seen as the manufacturing technology of the future, we are focusing on all stages from design optimization to process and material development.”

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”it's the combustion chamber of the TJ90 turbojet engine used in TUSAŞ Şimşek.”
This must be an addition to the previous work TEI had done with additive technologies.
I distinctly remember Prof Akşit in a fair showing a saucepan like unit similar to this one but without the holes and proudly telling everyone that it was the combustion chamber of the T700 Blackhawk engine they were manufacturing that was produced from Nickel Superalloys by additive technologies, whereby an original 13 part cast unit was produced as a single one through additive technologies.
But this one looks more intricate and complex. Also the title in one of the pictures says it so.

That is great to see TEI not sitting on their laurels and constantly improving.
 
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A footage from October shared by Mete Yarar today first time. Looks like new engine and it looks longer then other engines from Kale. Arat maybe>?
 

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Well, we are almost there. The engine is maturing. That is higher thrust than what the Ukranian engine can provide. On top, it is stealthy. According to M Aksit, the engine develops 5900+ lbf thrust now.

TS1400 can develop up to 1700-1800 HP shaft power for max output. And once the qualification tests are overcome it will be on Gokbey too.
 
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Wonderful news about TF6000, I would be happy with an interim 4800 lbf, now 5900 lbf made my day. As the force go up durability comes down surely; once they have a reasonable time on TBO hours they will probably want to fly already. I would give it 3 months at this pace before they will have no reserve towards flying.
 

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What does test profile mean? Does it mean each test iteration has a target value and they passed it?
 

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Akşit stated that they have reached the serial production stage for the TS1400 engine, noting that as of January 3 they assembled the first engine produced using parts supplied by domestic manufacturers and assembled in compliance with certification rules. Akşit said, “The delivery of the first serially produced engines assembled according to certification rules to TUSAŞ within this year, and the start of ground tests with this engine, will be an important milestone.”

 

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mavi batu.I calculated its almost double powerful interms of jenerator of the milgems generators which is up to 2400kVA according to işbir,so two mavi batu can replace 4 generators of milgems,but I do not know how suitable is to reduce number of generators on the ship.
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I don't know so I'm asking in case someone can answer...

Civil aero-engine OEM's used to run performance improvement packages whereby every few years an engine PIP would be released, perhaps improving engine performance by 1%-2%. Perhaps they still do. Do military engine OEM's not offer such upgrades over the years?

I think of this in the context of EJ200. After 20 years in service it might by now have reached 95kN wet thrust if there were a PIP system for the engine. Perhaps not of great interest to Turkiye but could have been of interest to India'a Tejas Mk2 programme. Possibly Gripen E, too.

When I think of it, this might be relevant to TF35000, whereby a lower thrust but reliable initial production version could be introduced earlier followed by a gradual improvement in thrust without reducing reliability.

Thanks for any replies.
 

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I don't know so I'm asking in case someone can answer...

Civil aero-engine OEM's used to run performance improvement packages whereby every few years an engine PIP would be released, perhaps improving engine performance by 1%-2%. Perhaps they still do. Do military engine OEM's not offer such upgrades over the years?

I think of this in the context of EJ200. After 20 years in service it might by now have reached 95kN wet thrust if there were a PIP system for the engine. Perhaps not of great interest to Turkiye but could have been of interest to India'a Tejas Mk2 programme. Possibly Gripen E, too.

When I think of it, this might be relevant to TF35000, whereby a lower thrust but reliable initial production version could be introduced earlier followed by a gradual improvement in thrust without reducing reliability.

Thanks for any replies.
Good point!
Now let us look at F110 engine:
It originated from the F101 engine originally developed for the B1 bomber in late 1970’s. So in effect the PIP package of F101 is the F110.

Then a stealthy version of the F110 appeared without the afterburner. That was F118. These propelled B2 bomber.

In 2003 they started using 4th generation single crystal turbine blades. But no new nomenclature was used.

After at MTU in mid 1990’s , the EJ200 engineers in Germany developed Blisk technology, the same tech was applied to the F110-GE129 engines in early 2000’s. They were named F118 and F110GE-129EPE (or F110GE132).
GE started using additive technologies in the manufacturing processes.
The goal is to produce an engine that is more fuel efficient without compromising performance. Small incremental changes do happen. Sometimes they are translated in to the nomenclature of the engine. Sometimes it is not mentioned or publicised.

If you look at the EJ200 :

The Eurojet EJ200 engine, which entered service in 2003, has undergone continuous, incremental upgrades to its hardware and software rather than a single, massive overhaul, thanks to its modular, future-proof design.

Key upgrades and enhancements include:

Since it’s first use the engine’s Digital Engine and Software and Control Systems (DECMU): has been updated to provide, at minimum, a 15% increase in thrust.

The introduction of advanced high-pressure (HP) turbine blades with enhanced cooling technology—developed in collaboration with FiatAvio and Rolls-Royce—allows for higher operating temperatures and better performance.

The engine was designed to allow for "growth steps" without requiring a complete redesign. Future, planned stages involve upgrading the low-pressure (LP) compressor and turbine to potentially increase dry thrust to 17535lbf and wet thrust to 27000lbf. (This was offered to us for the initial TFX design.)

(TVC) thrust vectoring control has been developed and tested to provide improved pitch, vector control, and aerodynamic performance, particularly for future aircraft upgrades which also came with 10-15% more thrust..

Enhancements to power generation have allowed the engine to meet the higher electrical power demands of modern, upgraded radar systems like the ECRS Mk2.

But these have not been translated in to the open nomenclature as one would expect.
 
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