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[UkroTurk]

The crowded Afghan group in Iran set off for Turkey, making victory signs and laughing.

İran'daki kalabalık Afgan grubu zafer işaretleriyle yola çıktı

İran'daki kalabalık Afgan grubu, zafer işaretleri yaparak ve gülerek Türkiye'ye doğru yola çıktı.

www.odatv4.com

Do our Army welcome them?

 

[Saithan]

Law enforcement inspect foreigners in Bursa​

BURSA​

Following the commencement of evening inspections in Istanbul at the start of this month aimed at detecting illegal migrants, law enforcement officers have widened their scope to include nearby Bursa province.


In a manner reminiscent of the operations in the metropolis, authorities conducted thorough inspections at 40 workplaces in Bursa, alongside rigorous identity checks. The inspections primarily focused on the Yavuz Selim, Arabatayağı and Çınarönü neighborhoods, known for their dense foreign national populations.

The coordinated efforts, led by the Bursa police, aimed to identify and address any migration-related irregularities.

During the inspections, it was revealed that six of the workplaces inspected were operating without the necessary licenses and tax plates. Consequently, these establishments faced fines, and two businesses received substantial penalties totaling more than 300,000 Turkish Liras ($11,100).

The decision to initiate inspections in Bursa came following a declaration made by Interior Minister Ali Yerlikaya. The minister had previously assured the public that efforts to detect and combat illegal immigration would be intensified not only in Istanbul, but also across all 81 provinces of the country.

Yerlikaya expressed confidence in the efficacy of these measures, stating that visible progress in curbing illegal immigration is expected within the next four to five months.

Law enforcement inspect foreigners in Bursa - Türkiye News

Following the commencement of evening inspections in Istanbul at the start of this month aimed at detecting illegal migrants, law enforcement officers have widened their scope to include nearby Bursa province.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

I think involving in criminal acts should means losing residency permit and have people deported. In case it's turks then fine and confiscation of property should ensue.

 

[Saithan]

Interior Ministry sets deadline for Syrians to leave Istanbul - Türkiye News

In the wake of increased measures against illegal migrants in Istanbul, the Interior Ministry's provincial migration administration has issued an ultimatum to Syrians under temporary protection to leave Istanbul by Sept. 24 if registered in other provinces.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

2 months time... not good enough, should include harsh punishment for any who employ them even include losing residency permit and business permit.

 

[Sanchez]

UK announces deal with Turkey to ‘disrupt’ people-smuggling gangs​

Home Office staff to support Turkish police in preventing export of small boats used for illegal crossings

On Tuesday night, the government announced the establishment of an operational “centre of excellence” by the Turkish national police and supported by the UK. The centre would aim to strengthen collaboration between the National Crime Agency and Home Officeintelligence staff based in Turkey and their Turkish counterparts, the British government said.

An investigation for the Guardian revealed in June that the Home Office provided more than £3m in funding to Turkish border forces in the previous year to prevent migrants reaching the UK.

The UK government said on Tuesday that it would deploy more officers in Turkey to work on joint operations. The focus of the joint operational centre will be addressing organised immigration crime and disrupting the supply chain of materials employed in illegal migration.

According to the Home Office, the export of small boats and boat parts across the continent of Europe in order to facilitate illegal crossings to the UK is a vital element of people-smugglers’ tactics. It said it is estimated that hundreds of small boats and boat parts are transported through Europe each year for this purpose.

The reinforced collaboration between the UK and Turkey will take centre stage at the forthcoming UK-Turkey migration dialogue meeting, scheduled for the autumn in London.

Last year Turkey said it had turned back 238,448 migrants at its eastern border with Iran. Video evidence seen by the Guardian shows cases of extreme violence and force used against Afghan migrants attempting to cross the border into Turkey. This includes the authorities firing live bullet rounds as people flee, including at the feet of children; beatings using rifle butts; robberies; humiliation tactics and pushing people back to the other side of the border.

UK announces deal with Turkey to ‘disrupt’ people-smuggling gangs

Home Office staff to support Turkish police in preventing export of small boats used for illegal crossings

www.theguardian.com

 

[Saithan]

I'd much rather have they invest in better border control, with sensors optics and such that locates them. Also fingerprints, image, ID, tech that enables us to register these in databases that makes it easier for us to trace, and find and identify them if they manage to get in later on.

 

[Sanchez]

Selçuk Türkoğlu, a member of parliament from the Good Party, crossed the Iranian border and traveled to Iranian villages. He did not encounter any stop warning.

He also took a souvenir photo in the middle of the border.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1692433609062244406

 

[Sanchez]

Turkey doesn’t have a border security problem. It has a border policy problem. Turkish security forces are more than adequate to curb illegal crossings, it’s just that they choose not to use them in the east.


“Minister of Internal Affairs Ali Yerlikaya:

"We had a meeting with the Greek Minister of Immigration and Asylum, Dimitris Kairidis, on September 19. I said, 'We will not send even one person to you for a month, and you should not push even one person back to us.' He accepted. We told the Coast Guard to 'pressure.' We made a similar agreement with Bulgaria.

We sent two battalions of soldiers, gendarmerie, to the Greek and Bulgarian border. "Our soldiers turned their backs and became walls."”

https://x.com/etkilihaber/status/1717815566399140038

 

[I_Love_F16]

Turkey doesn’t have a border security problem. It has a border policy problem. Turkish security forces are more than adequate to curb illegal crossings, it’s just that they choose not to use them in the east.


“Minister of Internal Affairs Ali Yerlikaya:

"We had a meeting with the Greek Minister of Immigration and Asylum, Dimitris Kairidis, on September 19. I said, 'We will not send even one person to you for a month, and you should not push even one person back to us.' He accepted. We told the Coast Guard to 'pressure.' We made a similar agreement with Bulgaria.

We sent two battalions of soldiers, gendarmerie, to the Greek and Bulgarian border. "Our soldiers turned their backs and became walls."”

https://x.com/etkilihaber/status/1717815566399140038

Letting that much people into the country is just pure treason. There’s no other word to qualify this madness. When justice will get back in Turkiye I hope that everyone involved in this absurdity will be in jail, the president included.

 

[TsumugiShirogane]

Lmao, turkey will be majority arabs and afghans by the time Greece gets F-35s. Turkish economy won't afford to keep funding the Kaan fighter project, Erdogan should consider spending the budget on ummah refugees instead, their prayers will help more

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

There is also the problem of third world students coming into Turkiye most of the Medical classes are full of arabs-Indonesians-pakistanis that didn't do any test but their families paid them to have that education.

 

[Test7]

There is also the problem of third world students coming into Turkiye most of the Medical classes are full of arabs-Indonesians-pakistanis that didn't do any test but their families paid them have that education.

Turkish students feel foreign in their own universities.

We hope you aware that DefenceHub has many Arabs, Indonesians, Pakistanis members.

Politics may be wrong, but personal expression should nt be offensive

 

[Ripley]

There is also the problem of third world students coming into Turkiye most of the Medical classes are full of arabs-Indonesians-pakistanis that didn't do any test but their families paid them have that education.

Turkish students feel foreign in their own universities.

Well, all I can say is that universities are like that all around the world, filled with foreign students and have other criteria to measure a foreign student’s aptitude and conformity.

Other than that, it’s a mind booster to young minds from both side and help expand one’s horizon immensely to get involved with other cultures.
So, my advice to young people is to take this opportunity as a blessing, blend with other kids, remember that universities are places of no boundaries, which when implemenTed in any form obstruct one’s vision and enjoy the ride.

 

[what]

Well, all I can say is that universities are like that all around the world, filled with foreign students and have other criteria to measure a foreign student’s aptitude and conformity.

Other than that, it’s a mind booster to young minds from both side and help expand one’s horizon immensely to get involved with other cultures.
So, my advice to young people is to take this opportunity as a blessing, blend with other kids, remember that universities are places of no boundaries, which when implied in any form obstruct one’s vision and enjoy the ride.

Yeah, that's the weakest argument someone can have on this kind of immigration. The best universities in the world actually do lecture in English nowadays, or at least partially anyway. But I guess you would have to see the actual insides of an actual university to understand the beauty and usefulness of it, to a country and humanity.

Some people like to complain about brain drain, no qualified personnel replacing those that are leaving the country, but do complain about foreigners at universities that do want to work in the country too.

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

We hope you aware that DefenceHub has many Arabs, Indonesians, Pakistanis members.

Politics may be wrong, but personal expression should nt be offensive

So? It doesn't change the fact that we have a problem with this too, Reality is often disappointing There is nothing offensive but the truth lies there.

 

[Bozan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1720414850310922570

Guess they are coming to TR

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

Well, all I can say is that universities are like that all around the world, filled with foreign students and have other criteria to measure a foreign student’s aptitude and conformity.

Other than that, it’s a mind booster to young minds from both side and help expand one’s horizon immensely to get involved with other cultures.
So, my advice to young people is to take this opportunity as a blessing, blend with other kids, remember that universities are places of no boundaries, which when implied in any form obstruct one’s vision and enjoy the ride.

So turkish students can't get decent education but some rich arab or Indonesian can get that?

Turks can't get to those universities even when they get It will be full of rich third worlders. If you support this I can't say anything.

I was in class at my friends university %90 PERCENT OF THE CLASS is made out of foreign speakers this should bother us?

I saw their whatsapp group they were racist against turks and were talking bad about the Ataturk as well, YOU KNOW WHY THEY COME HERE? BECAUSE THEY PAY FOR THAT NO OTHER PLACE IN EUROPE ACCEPTS THEM.

A Turkish student worth more than people who got there with money accept it or not.

 

[Ripley]

So turkish students can't get decent education but some rich arab or Indonesian can get that? Who created this country them or us?

Turks can't get to those universities even when they get It will be full of rich third worlders. If you support this I can't say anything.

I was in class at my friends university %90 PERCENT OF THE CLASS SPEAKS ARABIC SO THIS DOESN'T BOTHER ANYONE? TURKISH STUDENTS CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THEM.

I saw their whatsapp group they were racist against turks and were talking bad about the Ataturk as well, these people are not our friends If they act like this YOU KNOW WHY THEY COME HERE? BECAUSE THEY PAY FOR THAT NO OTHER PLACE IN EUROPE ACCEPTS THEM. MONEY WORTHS MORE THAN OUR PEOPLE IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN COUNTRY!

Totally irrelevant to universal ideals of a university.
They are places of learning and enlightenment regardless of one’s race, nationality, ethnicity, skin color, creed, faith, gender.

If, on the other hand, your concern is for the inequality of education system in Turkey as a whole, I’m with you all the way and also will agree that education at any level should be free and universal, not a privilege.
Do not take it on “other” kids, though. search the source of problem somewhere else, first and foremost those who run our education system.

A Turkish student worth more than people who got there with money accept it or not.

Simple choice. I won’t accept it.

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

Totally irrelevant to universal ideals of a university.
They are places of learning and enlightenment regardless of one’s race, nationality, ethnicity, skin color, creed, faith, gender.

If, on the other hand, your concern is for the inequality of education system in Turkey as a whole, I’m with you all the way but do not take it on “other” kids. search the source of problem somewhere else, first and foremost those who run our education system.


Simple choice. I won’t accept it.

So Turks can't get that education but some foreigner can because they have the money?

 

[Afif]

YOU KNOW WHY THEY COME HERE? BECAUSE THEY PAY FOR THAT NO OTHER PLACE IN EUROPE ACCEPTS THEM. MONEY WORTHS MORE THAN OUR PEOPLE IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN COUNTRY!

A Turkish student worth more than people who got there with money accept it or not.

Amm...so let's say hypothetically, instead of accepting foreing student who pays for their education, universities starts to provide free education for Turkish sutdents who couldn't get scholarships but also couldn't pay.

Consequencetially, majority of Turkish students who couldn't pay for their higher education will not need to bother having higher grades to get scholarships because their getting the education for free anyway.

It will seriously harm the academic competitiveness and will have long term repercussions on the quality of graduates.

 

[Ripley]

So Turks can't get that education but some foreigner can because they have the money?

I don’t know about the money part but if he/she is academically bright and promising, that kid should have a right of education.