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Western companies usually uses 1m² RCS target as their range reference. But it could be 3m² or even 5m² as a fighter size target. (We can only speculate from his statement)
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Yes, the reference target always has a 1m² RCS for Turkish products.

I expect Murad to have a detection range of 150km+ range for 1m² target
Burfis should have 250km+ range for the same target.
For reference, APG-83 has 90km+ detection range for a 1m² target.
 

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For reference, APG-83 has 90km+ detection range for a 1m² target.

Yes, but later i discover APG-83 uses the same T/R modules as APG-81 and basically uses 95% of its technologies. Unless there are some serious limitations, it is a bit hard to believe its actual range is that short.

Anyway, with MURAD this powerful couldn't Hurjet become a cost effective solution as an state of art interceptor? (Let's say with gokhan, ramjet propulsion will compensate for Hurjet's lack of kinematic performance)
 
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i have my doubts Murad will be that much stronger than northrop's work.

I also don't think a single f414 could supply murad with enough power...ESAs are very power hungry and their range scales with it relatively linearly up to a point.

we just don't know enough about the aesa project
Hürjet F404
 

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GaS aesa hungry but not GaN aesa.

Nope. It is more efficient and tolerate higher power input without increasing the cooling requirements. Or the same power input with less cooling requirement.
 

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Nope. It is more efficient and tolerate higher power input without increasing the cooling requirements. Or the same power input with less cooling requirement.
Less power losses in the transistors = more power put out in the transmission or for the same range, less power is required.
 

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I found multiple sources citing F414 at 65kva or F18 at 140 total so I guess I was remembering correctly, which btw should also tell you how powerful growler is for EW. In comparison F16 has total 60kva, F16 A/B have 40kva and I think there are some of those actually upgraded to viper configuration ( Taiwan?). However, apparently the active cooling capacity for electronics is much lower for all of these systems.
Cooling aside Gripen NG has more power than F16, and F404 generates 40kva so it could even use SABR radar likr F16 A/B Block 70, but with limits.
 
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Less power losses in the transistors = more power put out in the transmission or for the same range, less power is required.

Also, GaN in general has higher bandwidth. Which means better ECCM and SAR resolution if I understood correctly.
 

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Electric is generated by the generator, not engine, you can swap generators. Hürjet has Honeywell produced generator and alternators while Kaan has 2x120kVA generators produced by Volt Teknoloji
 

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Doubters gonna doubt, and haters gonna hate. Murad is better than APG-83 in every parameter with the possible exception of software.
 

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Doubters gonna doubt, and haters gonna hate. Murad is better than APG-83 in every parameter with the possible exception of software.
I think better will be include software. Because it is possible to optimize the code with artificial intelligence. Therefore, IMO, if the hardware is of high quality, the radar will be totaly superior with almost 100% certainty.
 

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Two indigenous AESA Radars delivered

Within the scope of the AESA Nose Radar Development Project, the first two AESA Nose Radars were delivered to the companies for the integration tests of the radar to AKINCI TİHA and F-16s

By companies I'm assuming it's Baykar and TAI?

 

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There should be one Murad radar for the F-16D flying with Kaan and another one Murad radar for Akıncı, which is equipped with new engines.

Bombardier type jets to be purchased (or already purchased) from Canada should also be used for BURFIS.
 

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Having come off the production line, #ASELFIR-500 and ASELFLIR-410 Electro-optical Reconnaissance Surveillance and Targeting Systems -firsts of mass production- are ready to become the sharp eyes of aerial platforms.
They should send notification to Canada, that first batch of Aselflir-500 came from production line.
Canada should not miss that opportunity to became first foreign country having Aselfir-500. :cool:
 
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