TR Sensors and Detector Programs

[TheInsider]

you literally just answered someone's question last page with a vague answer because we don't know much about murad. how are you even making that claim. AESAs get some of the least revealed about them in military hardware.

i love my country as much as any patriot but this forum is infested with braindead takes. gg

What we don't know is how good "exactly" it is. Like if someone says Murad detects 1 square meter target at 200km i wouldn't oppose it because when I calculate with the data I know about MURAD radar it is a realistic estimation. We know it is better than APG-83 because we know the performance of APG-83 and we can roughly(but not exactly) calculate the performance of the MURAD radar with the data we have. It is math. You can find radar calculators/spreadsheets online and put the numbers to calculate for a 1 square meter target.

 

[infrared]

i love my country as much as any patriot but this forum is infested with braindead takes. gg

That is my take too.

You cannot say anything against any defence project even if you repeat what project owners are saying. I believe this is because people come here to read good news and get angry when their expectations are not met. Defense is kinda the only thing they have left in Turkey to be happy about.

Also some people pretend like they are authority using nicknames implying such idea. When you prove they are 100% wrong still they dont admit their mistake.

In the radar case they say murad will be better just based on numbers and they disrespectfully disregard the experience of other companies that have been working on such projects for almost a century. They cannot admit a 40 year old company and a 100 year old company do not have the same capability to extract useful information from a 20 dB signal. It is not only hardware and numbers. When you disregard the experience of others, you are applying extra pressure to already overloaded engineers of yours. Hürkuş flew more than 10 years ago with good specs on paper but it is still not in the inventory is a good example of how numbers do not mean much.

This is my 0.02$ evaluating the situation with pink glasses.

 

[TheInsider]

When you put 1152 30-watt GaN modules together you will get a better range than your competition. This is physics. Aselsan has vast experience and knowledge of producing radars. I'm not overestimating you guys are underestimating. Canadians did the same things with optics and now Aselsan surpassed them. People mocked us about Kaan when TAI said it will fly and now they are eating their words.

How many companies can produce a building block as compact as this? That little thing has 16 T/R modules and Murad has 72 of them for a total of 1152 modules.

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

ASELSAN First of the New Electro-Optical Systems | TURDEF

The first ASELFLIR-410 and ASELFLIR-500 electro-optical systems have been rolled out of the serial production line.

www.turdef.com

 

[Bogeyman]

Kozan Selçuk said that HAVELSAN made early warning simulations by creating a joint air picture in different locations with 3 Akıncı's with AESA radars.

 

[Oublious]

Kozan Selçuk said that HAVELSAN made early warning simulations by creating a joint air picture in different locations with Akıncı, which has 3 AESA radars.

yes, akinci could do 10 procent of E7 Wedge tail awacs work. He was very positive about akinci.

 

[Radko]

Kozan Selçuk said that HAVELSAN made early warning simulations by creating a joint air picture in different locations with 3 Akıncı's with AESA radars.

link please

 

[uçuyorum]

yes, akinci could do 10 procent of E7 Wedge tail awacs work. He was very positive about akinci.

I think the point was if a single AKINCI can do like 10% of performance of E7, a bunch of them can effectively create a networked alternative. Having multiple in different directions can provide significant benefits in some detection scenarios.

 

[Bogeyman]

link please

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1769769810403959244

DÜFAS Low Frequency Active Sonar System,

 

[zio]

Thanks to Aselsan.I will list what we have working on and what we have to underwater acustic systems and warfare.
1. Aktif sonoboy-there is no news about it,
2. Multistatik sonar software integration -meteksan and Tubitak -project BOSS
3. Anti torpedo hard kill-Aselsan Tork project
4.Passif sonoboy-Aselsan
5. LW torpedo-Roketsan Orka
6.Single crystal PZ sonar unit-Meteksan
7. SAR sonar-meteksan and tubitak are working
8. Digital underwater telephone-Tubitak working and Koç Defence will buy it.
9.Magnetic Anomaly detector-MAD no news
10. Quantum tech for MAD no news
11.Quantum cryptology for underwater telephone or modem-no news
12.Fiberoptic towed sonar for submarines-Meteksan
13.Fiberoptic flank array sonar-Meteksan
14.Ultra LW torpedo for UAV no news
15.Sub Atmaca-Roketsan
16.Sub Gezgin no news
17.Recovery vehicle for Mosship-no news
18.Fulmar project signed

 

[Shtr]

Thanks to Aselsan.I will list what we have working on and what we have to underwater acustic systems and warfare.
1. Aktif sonoboy-there is no news about it,
2. Multistatik sonar software integration -meteksan and Tubitak -project BOSS
3. Anti torpedo hard kill-Aselsan Tork project
4.Passif sonoboy-Aselsan
5. LW torpedo-Roketsan Orka
6.Single crystal PZ sonar unit-Meteksan
7. SAR sonar-meteksan and tubitak are working
8. Digital underwater telephone-Tubitak working and Koç Defence will buy it.
9.Magnetic Anomaly detector-MAD no news
10. Quantum tech for MAD no news
11.Quantum cryptology for underwater telephone or modem-no news
12.Fiberoptic towed sonar for submarines-Meteksan
13.Fiberoptic flank array sonar-Meteksan
14.Ultra LW torpedo for UAV no news
15.Sub Atmaca-Roketsan
16.Sub Gezgin no news
17.Recovery vehicle for Mosship-no news
18.Fulmar project signed

This is so beautiful at all. Would you please write other projects we are waiting? I have been looking for such a nice list for a long time. It may be long a list but I guess it would be really important for everybody. I also think that it deserves a separate topic as well.

 

[Saithan]

Aselsan unveils Türkiye’s 1st domestic anti-submarine sonar​

ANKARA​

Turkish defense industry firm Aselsan has developed Türkiye’s first indigenous over-the-horizon submarine defense warfare sonar, facilitating the detection of underwater threats over vast distances.

According to a statement released by the Turkish defense giant, the Low-Frequency Active Sonar System (DÜFAS), crafted in alignment with the requirements of the Turkish Naval Forces under the auspices of the Defense Industry Agency, emits acoustic signals via active sonar elements.

By measuring these signals from targets through passive sonar means, it enables the precise identification and tracking of submerged threats with extended reach and precision, effectively nullifying the menace posed by adversary submarines to the Turkish Navy.

This system additionally discerns threats such as torpedoes by monitoring ambient noise in passive sonar mode and triggers countermeasure mechanisms upon detecting a torpedo threat, thereby neutralizing the risk.

Defense Industry Agency (SSB) head Haluk Görgün hailed the system that was unveiled during the week of the 109th anniversary of the Çanakkale victory and “carried the spirit of the ancestors.”

“Düfas, an eminent product of Aselsan's engineering prowess, has been devised for the detection of underwater threats. Endowed with a 360-degree all-encompassing scanning capability, Düfas will augment the potency of our illustrious navy,” he said.

source: https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/aselsan-unveils-turkiyes-1st-domestic-anti-submarine-sonar-191780

 

[zio]

Two step to reach anti sub warfare,one is active sonobouy,the other is lightweighr torpedo.

 

[Sanchez]

New 556 million $ deal with Turkish armed forces. Unlike last time, no info about specifics, not even which branch. I'm thinking it's radars.

"A contract with a value of USD 556.500.000,- regarding the supply of military equipment needed by the Turkish Armed Forces has been signed between ASELSAN and Republic of Türkiye Ministry of National Defence and has entered into force."

KAP

Kamuyu Aydınlatma Platformu

www.kap.org.tr

 

[Sanchez]

Aselsan's first airborne AESA radar made its first flight onboard an F-16 Özgür. I thought Akıncı would be its first flying host.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1772544167131955204

This radar and its iterations will fly aboard F-16s, Anka-3, Hürjet, Akıncı and KE.

 

[Zafer]

Lots of folks need to update their AESA radar induction predictions.

 

[zio]

aselsan murad

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Nice but i was thinking what will happen to existing f16 radars ? We cant just throw them in trash , any infro if they are modern and we can use them in platforms like akinci, aksungur or trainers hurjet or even in ground bases ?

 

[TheInsider]

MURAD was supposed to conduct its first flight on the F-16 in late Q2 (June 2024) so it is slightly ahead of the schedule but flying even before Akıncı is a surprise. BTW this is a real radar you can scan track targets etc. There were flights with dummy radars for mechanical integration tests.