TR Sensors and Detector Programs

[Angry Turk !!!]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679923472238092288

Retinar FAR-AD AESA radar. It can detect humans from 9+ km and can detect drones with the size of DJI Phantom 4 from 4.4 km.

Gürbağ Savunma nationalized the pan-tilt radar redirection unit. Meteksan is gearing up for a surprise regarding this radar.

Will this help against the terrorist scum?

 

[YeşilVatan]

Will this help against the terrorist scum?

Yes. Because asymetrical threat posed by small drones is a real thing. I expect an integrated drone detection and jamming network of sorts to be built in a decade or so. This network will first be installed over government facilities and later over all urban areas. Because those barbarians will, at some point, fly a drone rigged with explosives and shrapnel into a rush hour crowd at a bus stop or something.

 

[Heartbang]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679923472238092288

Retinar FAR-AD AESA radar. It can detect humans from 9+ km and can detect drones with the size of DJI Phantom 4 from 4.4 km.

Gürbağ Savunma nationalized the pan-tilt radar redirection unit. Meteksan is gearing up for a surprise regarding this radar.

Should do fine against paramotors, I assume?

 

[Bogeyman]

ASELSAN will blind the enemy missile


ASELSAN will share its capabilities in the fields of communication, air defense, avionics, electro-optics, electronic warfare, radar and unmanned systems with local and foreign visitors at the 16th International Defense Industry Fair (IDEF 2023) to be held in Istanbul on 25-28 July.

YILDIRIM-100 Directed Infrared Countermeasure System (DIRCM), which the company has been carrying out for a while under the coordination of the Presidency of Defense Industries, will be exhibited for the first time at IDEF 2023.

The system that will interfere with the seeker heads of shoulder-fired missiles with lasers and the solutions to be developed will increase the safety of aircraft, especially helicopters.

ASELSAN, which has been working in the development and production of electro-optic, laser and avionic systems for many years, has brought Turkey the Directed Infrared Countermeasure System, which only few countries in the world have, providing full protection against MANPADs and other heat-seeking missiles from all directions.

The fact that terrorist organizations began to seize shoulder-fired missile systems from conflict zones around the world increased the threat level for the security of the platforms. Also, as technology improved, MANPADs became more resistant to flares used to disorient heat-seeking missiles.

YILDIRIM-100 works in integration with different missile warning systems and flare shooters on the platform. Equipped with a precision gimbal, the YILDIRIM-100 turret sends high-power laser energy to an approaching guided missile, dulling the seeker's head and deflecting the missile.

YILDIRIM-100 has a double turret configuration and each turret uses a synchronized, multi-band directed laser against heat-guided missiles thanks to its Precision Tracking Unit and Laser Unit capable of producing high-power lasers. The system also includes a Control Unit that manages the DIRCM system and communicates with the missile warning system.

ASELSAN düşman füzesini kör edecek

ASELSAN, omuzdan atılan (MANPAD) füzelerin arayıcı başlıklarını lazerle kör ederek etkisiz hale getirecek. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[UkroTurk]

So Turkiye replaced all f16 radars even in last 30 batch that delivered around 2010 if i am correct than what all those 240 radars go ? Will they be destreoyed and all of those relatively modern radars go to bins ?
My idea was great if they can mount them on cheap drones and trainer aircrafts

I would use them with SUNGUR/STINGER/İgla manpads or land platforms since they are compact and light.

Edit:
The AN/APG-68 radar could be repurposed for ground mapping, as it has Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) capabilities.

Or they could be used on Satellites.
A SAR imaging Satellite has 3 years lifespan. You could throw old radars into space.

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<p>Capella Space is a space technology company with data and satellite solutions for government and commercial use. Capella’s SAR satellites provide access to information to a number of industries worldwide, including defense and intelligence, supply chain, insurance, maritime and others. The...

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[Radko]

ASELSAN KARAT IRST

 

[manifesto]

@TheInsider Unfortunately, the pixel output is half of your previous estimate.


I guess, Aselsan gonna use when own developed MCT based LWIR sensor. It was shared previous nearly 20-30 page on sensor and detector side.

via @Combat-Master

 

[TheInsider]

@TheInsider Unfortunately, the pixel output is half of your previous estimate.


I guess, Aselsan gonna use when own developed MCT based LWIR sensor. It was shared previous nearly 20-30 page on sensor and detector side.

View attachment 59232

via @Combat-Master

Sadge but there will be a second iteration.

 

[manifesto]

https://wwwcdn.aselsan.com/api/file/FELIS-64015-MW_ENG.pdf

 

[Heartbang]

Karat and Toygun specs dropped.

@Afif what are the implications of KARAT being LWIR and TOYGUN being MWIR? Could these two be used together to generate a weapons-grade track without using radar and therefore compromising stealth?

 

[Oublious]

View attachment 59227 View attachment 59228

ASELSAN KARAT IRST

What will be the detection range of the enemy fighters?

 

[Afif]

Karat and Toygun specs dropped.

@Afif what are the implications of KARAT being LWIR and TOYGUN being MWIR?

So, from my incomplete reading on the subject what i previously understood is, LWIR can see objects with lower temperature than MWIR, which make them more suitable to find targets at higher altitude (at longer ranges) against cold sky background.

but LWIR sensor is not very suitable against targets at lower altitude within surface/cloud background, because the contrast is too low.
On the otherhand, MWIR has more contrast. Which makes them more capable for finding targets at lower altitude than the searching platform itself within cloud and surface background.


So apparently, KAAN will have the advantage of both MWIR and LWIR, Unlike current F-35. (However, I read somewhere next gen EOTS may have a LWIR sensor also. Not sure how they will fit it)

Could these two be used together to generate a weapons-grade track without using radar and therefore compromising stealth?

Yes and no.
The way I see is, generally there are two scenarios.

1. Target is actively emitting and it get caught on BUFRIS EW, then BUFRIS geolocate the target with outstanding precision based on its emmision and cue the KARAT IRST to tracked and indetify the target.
Ultimately, KAAN's central proccessing core after doing an excellent amount of sensor fusion from BUFRIS and KARAT as well as from off-board sesnors (let's not forget each KAAN woild be highly connected to other KAAN in the area) provide a 100% passive complete fire control solution.

Now the thing is, a full passive fire control solution can be done with BUFRIS alone.
However, the way I understood the principle of Infrared search and tracking, KARAT and Toygun completely on their own cannot provide full fire control solution without activating the laser range finder.

2. KARAT detects and tracks the targets but they are not actively emitting. Thus, you cannot use BUFRIS to accurately geolocate the target for a complete passive fire control solution.
In such scenario, there are broadly two option.

One is, a single KAAN in the formation takes the risk and actively emmits to get a full fire control solution for itself as well as for the others.

Or even better there is a unmanned loyal wing man, which will be deployed ahead of KAAN in the formation.

It will activate its own AESA sensor (cued by KARAT's tracking data from KAAN through data link) and paint the target for KAAN. Then KAAN will fire its long range BVR weapon.

And the risk in this case even more acceptable.

Now let's keep in mind, these two scenarios (1 and 2) here are highly oversimplified. There can be lots of variables in them.

 

[Heartbang]

However, the way I understood the principle of Infrared search and tracking, KARAT and Toygun completely on their own cannot provide full fire control solution without activating the laser range finder.

That might be true on a single IRST. But I was talking about cueing BOTH KARAT and TOYGUN on target and fusing their data to generate the track. Like how you need two eyes for depth awareness.

Actually, something like this, on a single aircraft:

 

[Afif]

That might be true on a single IRST. But I was talking about cueing BOTH KARAT and TOYGUN on target and fusing their data to generate the track. Like how you need two eyes for depth awareness.

Actually, something like this, on a single aircraft:

I know this technique. (Triangulation)
You can't have it from a single platform even if it has two sensors.

 

[uçuyorum]

I know this technique. (Triangulation)
You can't have it from a single platform even if it has two sensors.

This is not triangulation and you can determine distance with offset sensors from one system with a certain level of accuracy

 

[Afif]

This is not triangulation and you can determine distance with offset sensors from one system with a certain level of accuracy

I maybe mistaken but that looks like a triangulation to me.

 

[Radko]

This is not triangulation and you can determine distance with offset sensors from one system with a certain level of accuracy

That is triangulation

 

[uçuyorum]

That is triangulation

My mind went to cell tower triangulation, which requires 3 sources with a certain distance between them, that's my bad, but yes 2 points on a single device should suffice, depending on distance and resolution of sensors. Need to calculate the angle between vectors from two sensors to target, but at long range it may be that on both cameras target is only 1 pixel in same position so you can't calculate that difference

 

[Altay_TR]

Aselsan will introduce GÖKBERK mobile laser weapon system at IDEF'23.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1681219163535155201

The GÖKBERK system can search, detect and track UAVs with radar and electro-optical sensors, and provides physical destruction of threats using a laser weapon with a power of at least 5 kW, and functional destruction using the Kangal jammer subsystem.

 

[Bogeyman]

The abilities of the SERHAT Radar, the protector of critical base areas, have been increased


The Mobile Mortar Detection Radar (SERHAT), which protects critical base areas against mortar threats, has been upgraded to SERHAT-DUAL configuration by gaining new capabilities.

According to the information obtained by the AA correspondent, ASELSAN will share its capabilities in communications, air defense, avionics, electro-optics, electronic warfare, radar and unmanned systems with local and foreign visitors at the 16th International Defense Industry Fair (IDEF 2023) to be held in Istanbul on July 25-28.

Within the scope of the fair, the new configuration of SERHAT, in which ASELSAN has increased its capabilities in line with the developing technologies as a result of coordination with the Presidency of Defense Industries, will also be exhibited for the first time.

SERHAT, which has been in the inventory of the Turkish Armed Forces since 2014 and has proven its success in protecting critical base areas against mortar threats, continues to develop.

The SERHAT Radar, which can calculate the drop-drop locations by detecting and tracking mortar munitions, gains new capabilities in line with the developing needs and is upgraded to the SERHAT-DUAL configuration.

In addition to the existing capabilities, the SERHAT-DUAL Radar, which will have the ability to detect, track and classify artillery, rocket, mini/micro UAV, has also increased the target detection range.

The development work of the SERHAT-DUAL Radar, which has capabilities far beyond its peers, has been completed and the firing test phase has begun. With the system entering the inventory this year, the Turkish Armed Forces will gain the power to protect critical base areas against different types of threats with a single radar.

Kritik üs bölgelerinin koruyucusu SERHAT Radarı'nın yetenekleri arttı

Seyyar Havan Tespit Radarı, gelişen ihtiyaçlar doğrultusunda yeni yetenekler kazanarak SERHAT-DUAL konfigürasyonuna yükseliyor. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr