TR Sensors and Detector Programs

[Afif]

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I can't understand that how forward looking stationary antenna could map ground ?

Because it's a phased array antenna that steers its beam electronically instead of steering it mechanically.

Phased Array Antenna - Radartutorial

www.radartutorial.eu

 

[UkroTurk]

Because it's a phased array antenna that steers its beam electronically instead of steering it mechanically.

Phased Array Antenna - Radartutorial

www.radartutorial.eu

I understood it. But ground mapping mission wouldn't be too dangerous ? Repositioned antenna could reduce risks.
Repositioned antenna

Euroradar CAPTOR - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The radar consists of a mechanically controlled antenna

The antenna can be swivelled by ±60° in elevation and azimuth.

the radar can also interleave different radar modes, which would only otherwise be possible with phased array antennas, albeit much faster. For example, air-to-air and air-to-ground modes can be combined in one scan pass.

Just mechanical touch, it is not a rocket science might our nose radar miss air-to-ground capabilities?

At least Armed Hürjet, KE, Akıncı, Anka 3 should have such repositioned antenna.

 

[moz68k]

F-35 APG-81 SAR imaging for air-to-ground attack, having multiple arrays or a repositionable one isn't a significant advantage for this use-case:

 

[UkroTurk]

F-35 APG-81 SAR imaging for air-to-ground attack, having multiple arrays or a repositionable one isn't a significant advantage for this use-case:

Here ground target was in front of F-35 so the radar could worked simultaneously in two mode.
F-35 is stealthy ( low observation from enemyradars) so it has different engagement procedures and maneuvers. There is no dogfight.


EF radar locks at wide angle , could send A2A missiles from wide angle. More advantages in dogfight. İmagine F16 with stationary AESA versus EF with repositioned AESA antenna? İ would prefer EF .



I don't think F-35 could make these maneuvers .

9 years old video

Anyway why KE, AKINCI , Hürjet should have A2A mission radar? They should have focus on ground capabilities.

 

[Yasar_TR]

EF radar locks at wide angle , could send A2A missiles from wide angle. More advantages in dogfight. İmagine F16 with stationary AESA versus EF with repositioned AESA antenna? İ would prefer EF .

ECRS radar that Typhoon has, comes in three different versions:

Ultimately, differing requirements and timelines led to Captor-E being subdivided into the ECRS Mk 0 (Kuwait and Qatar), Mk 1 (the definitive standard for Germany and Spain), and Mk 2 for the United Kingdom. Each of these radars introduces an additional level of capability, with ECRS Mk 2 being the most advanced.

The Leonardo Uk developed Mk 2 Radar that took over 10 years to be ready, has GaN/GaAs hybrid T/R modules. This radar has a lot more power and a far greater angle of swing than previous versions. It is claimed that the new technologies adapted in MK 2 will virtually make it impossible for enemy forces to escape detection be it air to air or air to ground.

One important claimed capability of the mk2 version is that, Eurofighter Typhoon will be able to locate and deny use of an adversary’s radar with a powerful electronic jamming attack, whilst staying beyond the reach of threats.

Saudi Airforce is requesting from the British this MK 2 version on the new EF2000s they are going to buy.

As Tranche 2 and Tranche 3 EF Typhoons can be retrofitted with this new Aesa Radar, Royal airforce is set to have them on all their TR2 & 3 planes.
I hope if we do have Typhoons as well, it must be with the MK 2 Radar fitted.

 

[Afif]

Here ground target was in front of F-35 so the radar could worked simultaneously in two mode.
F-35 is stealthy ( low observation from enemyradars) so it has different engagement procedures and maneuvers. There is no dogfight.


EF radar locks at wide angle , could send A2A missiles from wide angle. More advantages in dogfight. İmagine F16 with stationary AESA versus EF with repositioned AESA antenna? İ would prefer EF .

You don't need radar in WVR engagement. Specially after helmet mounted display. Pilot just have to look and its good enough for targeting.

(See the dogfight part.)

 

[Bogeyman]

MİHAL Project was successfully completed on time. The MİHAL laser approach sensor reading circuit, designed and produced at TÜBİTAK YİTAL, was tested by SAGE and achieved success beyond expectations.

When comparing the YITAL reading circuit with the existing reading circuit made with discrete elements, 7 times less noise level is achieved with the YITAL reading circuit. This enabled the missiles to lock on to the target from further away.

https://tubitak-staging.tubitak.gov.tr/sites/default/files/2024-04/tubitak_2023_yili_faaliyet_raporu.pdf

 

[Zafer]

HIT1 ⃣
Moving unmanned target ;
On #Bayraktar #TB2 , #ASELFLIR-500 marked,
#MAM -L hit.

HIT2 ⃣
Fixed target ;
on #Bayraktar #TB2 , #ASELFLIR-500 marked from the air,
#KMC + #CİRİT hit from land.

Fixed and moving land targets #destroyed with precision strike.

@aselsan @BaykarTech @roketsan

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1787009508033593445

This can probably be used to target lower flying slower planes too using drop bombs. Toruk Maktu preying on Ikrans.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1787424050949583119

#ASELSAN #EREN-2 detects targets with high accuracy even in high-risk areas where there is no line of sight due to vegetation.

 

[Anmdt]

Denizgözü Piranha (AF400-D) has been updated with a flat front face:
Before:

After:

 

[Radko]

Denizgözü Piranha (AF400-D) has been updated with a flat front face:
Before:
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After:
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And wipers ahaha

 

[Turkic]

Talking about AESA radars, does more T/R modules and higher power output mean longer range and higher resolution ? Or is there any other factors ? (Except of GaN-GaAs difference)

 

[TheInsider]

Talking about AESA radars, does more T/R modules and higher power output mean longer range and higher resolution ? Or is there any other factors ? (Except of GaN-GaAs difference)

More T/R modules do not necessarily mean longer range but it means higher resolution. Higher power output means longer range. Lower operational frequency means a higher range but lower resolution. Higher pulse repetition frequency means more range. A higher pulse width means more range.

 

[DBdev]

@TheInsider F-22 radar can see radar signals of all the F-35s flying below it through R modules while in passive mode without transmitting anything even when F-35 AESA (most modern hard to detect) are targeting other planes. Similar to Sentinel satellites seeing Sx00 radar signals from all the way from space but better since this is AESA.

This method is similar to submarines rarely sending a sonar ping and running sonar silent for days while constantly listening for enemy pings.
Will BURFIS receiver modules be able to scan the sky for enemy AESA radar signals and channel hopping encrypted communications even when they are not directed at KAAN?

Submarines can send a single pulse instead of max power continuous waves to detect other silent running submarines. Can KAAN do that single ping tactic against a silent F22?

A visual aid

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1729755353112285380

 

[Afif]

@TheInsider F-22 radar can see radar signals of all the F-35s flying below it through R modules while in passive mode without transmitting anything even when F-35 AESA (most modern hard to detect) are targeting other planes. Similar to Sentinel satellites seeing Sx00 radar signals from all the way from space but better since this is AESA.

This method is similar to submarines rarely sending a sonar ping and running sonar silent for days while constantly listening for enemy pings.
Will BURFIS receiver modules be able to scan the sky for enemy AESA radar signals and channel hopping encrypted communications even when they are not directed at KAAN?

Submarines can send a single pulse instead of max power continuous waves to detect other silent running submarines. Can KAAN do that single ping tactic against a silent F22?

A visual aid

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1729755353112285380

The premise is wrong. Unless AESA beam is directed to you, no one is detecting anything.

 

[uçuyorum]

The premise is wrong. Unless AESA beam is directed to you, no one is detecting anything.

Microwave frequency strongly interacts with water molecules so residual reflections may be detectable.

 

[Afif]

Microwave frequency strongly interacts with water molecules so residual reflections may be detectable.

Ah no, a better argument would be saying sidelobes, but still largely no.

 

[DBdev]

The premise is wrong. Unless AESA beam is directed to you, no one is detecting anything.

AESA isn't undetectable. It has lower probability since it is like a laser not a light bulb with side reflectors like older radars.

An actual F-22 pilot said these things about F22 in Quora. Couldn't find the exact post. But AESA is a narrow, focused wave like a laser is.

Yes you will surely notice when someone puts that laser right in to your eye but that doesn't mean modern cameras can't see the entire laser beam even when they are targeting something else or even when they are in a spectrum human eye can't see.

 

[Afif]

An actual F-22 pilot said these things about F22 in Quora.

If you say so.

 

[Afif]

AESA isn't undetectable. It has lower probability since it is like a laser not a light bulb with side reflectors like older radars.

An actual F-22 pilot said these things about F22 in Quora. Couldn't find the exact post. But AESA is a narrow, focused wave like a laser is.

Yes you will surely notice when someone puts that laser right in to your eye but that doesn't mean modern cameras can't see the entire laser beam even when they are targeting something else or even when they are in a spectrum human eye can't see.

RWR doesn't work like human eye or camera.