TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Rodeo]

March 18th? That's what they're aiming for. They seemed relatively confident too.

It's good that they're pushing the team to make it to that day even though it's not very likely. We shouldn't be obsessed with March 18th. It should fly when it's ready. I would still be very pleased if it flew towards the end of next year.

You gave excellent news about TFX

 

[MADDOG]

It's good that they're pushing the team to make it to that day even though it's not very likely. We shouldn't be obsessed with March 18th. It should fly when it's ready. I would still be very pleased if it flew towards the end of next year.

You gave excellent news about TFX

That's very unlikely. But I would be pleased too.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

My current job or my identity doesn't concern anyone and I won't be answering the question you asked. This is the third time I've stressed this thus far. I will ignore similar comments in the future.

Ok just for couriosity i asked bro calm down
To me is very odd that someone can visit TAI so easy even goverment politicans or journalist shoud not allowed inside . In area 51 noone can enter.

 

[MADDOG]

Ok just for couriosity i asked bro calm down
To me is very odd that someone can visit TAI so easy even goverment politicans or journalist shoud not allowed inside . In area 51 noone can enter.

I'm calm man just trying to make a couple of things clear. TAI is not Area 51 and they're certainly not operating at that level of secrecy. The TF-X is an open source program at this point.

 

[Zafer]

You can view the First Flight Countdown Timer through the link in my signature.

 

[Zafer]

Ok just for couriosity i asked bro calm down
To me is very odd that someone can visit TAI so easy even goverment politicans or journalist shoud not allowed inside . In area 51 noone can enter.

I have a business card of Temel Kotil, many people have, I am not even in defense sector.

 

[Oublious]

 

[MADDOG]

is it AESA?

Thanks, at least this time, they answered.

Also, did you ask if they have any plans to reveal MMU before 18th March?

Most likely an AESA. And no the MMU won't be revealed until the 18th of March unless there is a shift on TAI's policies. There isn't a solid policy in place if I'm being honest... Depends on a lot of factors. So photos could still get released. But just be aware that TAI hasn't planned such thing. That order usually comes down from the top.

 

[MADDOG]

Kale Group Technical Head regarding the TF-X/MMU engines

"Project TF-X will be the second 5th generation fighter aircraft to be developed in the world (?). Therefore, it is a very important project for our country. I can't explain enough how important this is. Having such a difficult technology will take this country to a completely different place. We set out to make a fighter jet engine, with all the rights to the engine of the plane."

"Here, we use Rolls-Royce as a technology resource. We established a joint company in Turkey. We have a partner company with Rolls-Royce, mostly ourselves. With this company, we have a concept in which nearly 400 Turkish engineers will be employed and the design and development work will be done in Turkey, with all the rights to us. In this way, we aspire to build the second 5th generation fighter jet engine in the world. We are still in talks with the SSB on this issue. We submitted the final version of our proposal. We are currently waiting for a decision. This is the point we have come to."

"However, as I said, it is a very complex project, a very difficult project. If it were easy, it would have done a lot in the world. Therefore, if we can bring this level of technology to our country, it is certain that it will be a very important reason for me to be happy."

 

[Zafer]

I would develop the technology and not borrow it.

 

[Fighter_35]

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Kale Group Technical Head regarding the TF-X/MMU engines

"Project TF-X will be the second 5th generation fighter aircraft to be developed in the world (?). Therefore, it is a very important project for our country. I can't explain enough how important this is. Having such a difficult technology will take this country to a completely different place. We set out to make a fighter jet engine, with all the rights to the engine of the plane."

"Here, we use Rolls-Royce as a technology resource. We established a joint company in Turkey. We have a partner company with Rolls-Royce, mostly ourselves. With this company, we have a concept in which nearly 400 Turkish engineers will be employed and the design and development work will be done in Turkey, with all the rights to us. In this way, we aspire to build the second 5th generation fighter jet engine in the world. We are still in talks with the SSB on this issue. We submitted the final version of our proposal. We are currently waiting for a decision. This is the point we have come to."

"However, as I said, it is a very complex project, a very difficult project. If it were easy, it would have done a lot in the world. Therefore, if we can bring this level of technology to our country, it is certain that it will be a very important reason for me to be happy."

We should go with rolls Royce and kale partnership , but we should also task tei and trmotor to produce a fully domestic engine. If rolls Royce deal fails , we would not lose any time. and use our engines for next versions of our TFX. With expertise ,weay produce several engines to be used in many fileds.

 

[TheInsider]

There is a slight misunderstanding here. He meant second 5th generation fighter with a suitable engine. Currently, neither Russian nor Chinese aircraft have a suitable engine technology for a 5th gen aircraft.

 

[Afif]

There is a slight misunderstanding here. He meant second 5th generation fighter with a suitable engine. Currently, neither Russian nor Chinese aircraft have a suitable engine technology for a 5th gen aircraft.

F35 already has a suitable engine. And I think chinese are gonna have their engine ready for j20 and j35 in next 3/4 years.

Latest ws-10c ( equipping j20 currently ) has 4000 hour lifespan on per with GE f414 and has stealthier sawtooth exhaust feathers . Compared to Ws 10 base model, which started only with 800 hours.

 

[Hasanrize]

There is a slight misunderstanding here. He meant second 5th generation fighter with a suitable engine. Currently, neither Russian nor Chinese aircraft have a suitable engine technology for a 5th gen aircraft.

He didn't count F-22 as 5th Gen probably. It is stealth, yes, but it doesn't have sensor fusion capability, which is necessary for the 5th gen.

 

[Afif]

He didn't count F-22 as 5th Gen probably. It is stealth, yes, but it doesn't have sensor fusion capability, which is necessary for the 5th gen.

F22 has sensor fusion capability. But not as good as f35. And if anybody don't count f22 as fifth gen fighter, it would be just ridiculous!
And also, along with that, j20 and j35 has sensor fusion capability.

His statement is likely to be just a slip of the tongue.

 

[Radonsider]

i think he meant 2nd F119 class

F22 has sensor fusion capability. But not as good as f35. And if anybody don't count f22 as fifth gen fighter, it would be just ridiculous!
And also, along with that, j20 and j35 has sensor fusion capability.

His statement is likely to be just a slip of the tongue.

 

[Agha Sher]

He didn't count F-22 as 5th Gen probably. It is stealth, yes, but it doesn't have sensor fusion capability, which is necessary for the 5th gen.

With that definition, even TF-X will not be a 5th gen until 2035 or so.

 

[Radonsider]

With that definition, even TF-X will not be a 5th gen until 2035 or so.

Huh what, it will have sensor fusion...

 

[Agha Sher]

Huh what, it will have sensor fusion...

It will not have super cruise initially.

 

[Radonsider]

It will not have super cruise initially.

Then F-35 is not 5th gen?