TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[MADDOG]

Diamonds are DAS system, aren't they?

Unlikely

 

[Afif]

Here, on top of the nose. ( left side from the pilot )

 

[Radonsider]

Yes, but we don't have a lot of options do we? That's why I was wondering if this thing exists on the F-16. I know there are two pressure relief doors on the F-14 (as far as I can remember).

Maybe it will be under the aircraft?

 

[Windchime]

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Well there aren't a lot of possibilities. Do we know where this device is located on the F-16?

Diamonds are DAS system, aren't they?

Those are most probably satlink and UHF antenna.

 

[Windchime]

I know BAE system has north American subsidiary!
But AN/ALQ94 is not an us product.
Because, it was developed in uk.
However, AN/ASQ-239 was developed by us subsidiary.
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No, that's plain wrong.

During ATF, Sanders and GE were selected for the development of integrated EW suite of the ATF. Later both went through mergers like most of the US Aerospace and defense companies during the consolidation period and were sold to Lockheed and Martin Marietta respectively. Later they've merged into Lockmart and Lockmart sold their AES and CE division, which ended up as BAE ESI of today. So no, the AN/ALR-94 is not a British product. In fact, by now you'd know it wasn't even BAE product. Also, AN/ALQ-94 is a separate EW system to AN/ALR-94 and was used on F-111, though it was also developed by Sanders.

 

[Windchime]

A lot of folks here are putting heavy emphasis on MMU being purely Turkish, or close to purely Turkish but you've got to always remember and acknowledge the fact that MMU cannot be completely free of off the shelf parts from foreign aerospace suppliers. Aerospace industry is huge but small in the same time and has a globally intertwined ecosystem like any other heavy industry today. As long as certain part is not related to security concerns (eg. MMIC) it could always be beneficial to have a foreign supplier in terms of cost and risk management.

 

[dBSPL]

I think it will have 3 internal weapon bays like that.

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[AzeriTank]

Why 1118 tho?

Does that mean something?

It could mean 18th of November from American view)

 

[monsteroftfx]

Those are most probably satlink and UHF antenna.

Yes, they are not DAS. Thats my bad.

 

[AzeriTank]

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Guys did you see any kind of Overpressure spill/relief doors on TF-X?

Because I didnt

t was shared pn twitter already, it on the side when you watch it from dront side

 

[Rodeo]

A lot of folks here are putting heavy emphasis on MMU being purely Turkish, or close to purely Turkish but you've got to always remember and acknowledge the fact that MMU cannot be completely free of off the shelf parts from foreign aerospace suppliers. Aerospace industry is huge but small in the same time and has a globally intertwined ecosystem like any other heavy industry today. As long as certain part is not related to security concerns (eg. MMIC) it could always be beneficial to have a foreign supplier in terms of cost and risk management.

The problem is not that we have fetish of 100% Turkish content. The problem is to make the aircraft ITAR-free. The US or any other country shouldn't have the power to axe any export agreement TFX achieves in the future.

 

[I_Love_F16]

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AIM-9X I suppose.

 

[Radonsider]

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t was shared pn twitter already, it on the side when you watch it from dront side

Sorry couldnt get it, can you share the picture?

 

[Cabatli_TR]

A lot of folks here are putting heavy emphasis on MMU being purely Turkish, or close to purely Turkish but you've got to always remember and acknowledge the fact that MMU cannot be completely free of off the shelf parts from foreign aerospace suppliers. Aerospace industry is huge but small in the same time and has a globally intertwined ecosystem like any other heavy industry today. As long as certain part is not related to security concerns (eg. MMIC) it could always be beneficial to have a foreign supplier in terms of cost and risk management.

You're right but Turkish industry will push the limits of localization with aviation ecosystem it will create from TFX project. The TFX project will be global symbol of Turkiye's vision and strength and It is a must for our Turkic union that was formed with other Turk states and if this aircraft is not ITAR-Free, then it will not serve its purpose fully. That's why we set out with the aim of making almost everything domestic as much as we can, from the ejection seat to the canopy, from APU to turbofan engine, from ECU or hydraulic components to the fuel tank and radar, optics, EW, paint...etc

 

[AzeriTank]

Sorry couldnt get it, can you share the picture?

S duck pressure

 

[dBSPL]

AIM-9X I suppose.

It is Akdogan, and about 2.5 meters, may be even shorter than. It is a short-range mini AA missile with similar aerodynamic characteristics and agile maneuverability to Bozdoğan WVRAAM. Recent announcements have included information about plans to integrate this missile type with UAV systems, but Akdoğan mockup first appeared under the MMU mockup wing.

If we accept @Devence's idea about the bulk cross-section detail as correct, it could be an example of what kind of ammunition such a small pocket could carry. So this is all hypothetical, of course, and that gap is there probably for another purpose, but if it is for munitions, it could be a missile interceptor system for the MMU. I'm just thinking out loud.

 

[Radonsider]

S duck pressure

Oh, but isn't that boundary air layer vent?

 

[Windchime]

S duck pressure

Oh, but isn't that boundary air layer vent?

Yes that is a boundary layer passage.

 

[Lool]

I which world is F-35 more advanced than F-22?
Bigger number ≠ Better

The USA has a policy to not export their most adavnaced fighter jet in order to maintain their military superiority
Till this date, the US has refused to sell its F22 raptors to even the friendliest nations like Israel while initiating F35 sales like hotcakes

During Trump rule, he wanted to sell the F22 to Israel but the congress, pentagon and even the Senate refused as far as I heared. It is qyuite rare to have all such institutions (that are normally opposing each other) to actually agree on something unlese it is due to a decent reason ofcourse

We can keep arguing about which is better, but all of us deep inside knows that the F22 is better since the US refuses to sell it to anyone

 

[Hasanrize]

The USA has a policy to not export their most adavnaced fighter jet in order to maintain their military superiority
Till this date, the US has refused to sell its F22 raptors to even the friendliest nations like Israel while initiating F35 sales like hotcakes

During Trump rule, he wanted to sell the F22 to Israel but the congress, pentagon and even the Senate refused as far as I heared. It is qyuite rare to have all such institutions (that are normally opposing each other) to actually agree on something unlese it is due to a decent reason ofcourse

We can keep arguing about which is better, but all of us deep inside knows that the F22 is better since the US refuses to sell it to anyone

They have 20 years of technology gap in between. F-22 being better than F-35 is against the nature of technology. If F-22 is better than the F-35, the USA should keep it for itself. But, they want to retire it, meaning that the USA doesn't even want to keep it for itself.

F-22 has a reputation for being the most advanced fighter, and this reputation is also its doom. They probably intentionally put F-35 behind F-22 in order to prevent it from the same doom. If they openly agree that F-35 is better than the F-22, there would be some congressmen who try to block its sales and eventually succeed, just like they did in the F-22.