TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[MADDOG]

TF1118 ???

Seems like it

 

[Pilatino]

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What are these things? Looks like facilities.

 

[Pilatino]

Seems like it

TurboFan1118? Wtf

 

[MADDOG]

TurboFan1118? Wtf

Could be the name of the prototype I dunno

 

[Radonsider]

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Background image is of importance

Why 1118 tho?

Does that mean something?

 

[Afif]

Even that wont happen, imagine US is outsoursing F-22 parts, thats would be something similar.

Actually, USA did outsourced one of the most critical and sensitive system from UK for f22! AN/ALR94 EW suite.
This is not very uncommon between strategic allies.
however, it can be argued, Pakistan didnt reach that level of trustworthiness yet. or technologically, it doesnt actually have anything to offer.

 

[Hasanrize]

Even that wont happen, imagine US is outsoursing F-22 parts, thats would be something similar.

It is not fair to compare US and Türkiye.

Also, the US outsourced plenty of parts for the F-35, which is more advanced and important than the F-22.

 

[Xenon54]

It is not fair to compare US and Türkiye.

Also, the US outsourced plenty of parts for the F-35, which is more advanced and important than the F-22.

I which world is F-35 more advanced than F-22?
Bigger number ≠ Better

 

[Baryshx]

Actually, USA did outsourced one of the most critical and sensitive system from UK for f22! AN/ALR94 EW suite.
This is not very uncommon between strategic allies.
however, it can be argued, Pakistan didnt reach that level of trustworthiness yet. or technologically, it doesnt actually have anything to offer.

Pakistan and Bangladesh should have been in better places with this population. The importance of education... If you use Islam well, you will grow (Baghdad, Andalusia) but if you use it badly and for profit, you will be disgraced (Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Arabia etc.)

 

[Radonsider]

Guys did you see any kind of Overpressure spill/relief doors on TF-X?

Because I didnt

 

[Windchime]

Not according to the video I have shared!
Is what we have today as a prototype of TFX on the production line same as what we had been served up until then?
Even this prototype may change a bit.
Heck! We are using F110s in our prototype. Serial production will have a totally different engine.
So it is quite logical to deduce that the engine of Tempest is going to be a variation of a variable cycle turbofan developed from Orpheus.

Oh, my friend, that video is a wrong wrong source to mention, and I certainly hope that video isn't the only source.

Orpheus is a demonstrator engine, and it is not a demonstrator of Tempest powerplant, but a new design and manufacturing technique. The AWST article that goes into detail about XG240 doesn't mention Orpheus in conjunction to the XG240. Also, FG clearly states two things:

One, the engine is a "project that will change how products and technologies are developed for the UK’s Future Combat Air System" which implies that this demonstrator itself is not the actual demonstrator engine that the UK and Japan are jointly developing.

The other, that this engine "could be applicable for products such as loyal wingman or remote carrier vehicles", so it is not intended for a high-thrust fighter jet. This is pretty clear since the Orpheus is a small engine with rather high BPR. Of course, it is configurable and scalable, but at least the current engine is clearly not the Tempest demonstrator engine nor the XG240.

So, it would be correct to say that the technologies and techniques developed through the Orpheus program are going to be applied in Tempest engine demonstrator program, but saying that the design itself is connected to the demonstrator engine would be false.

personally, rolls royce just giving up its latest 6th gen engine tech to Turkey seems very unlikely to me.

More importantly, UK (and Japan) are still developing the 6th gen engine and its relevant technologies so obviously they can't offer something that doesn't exist. Well, that is unless they take in Türkiye as equal partners, but forget about that, especially when Japan's involved.

 

[Windchime]

Even that wont happen, imagine US is outsoursing F-22 parts, thats would be something similar.

They do outsource plenty of parts if the need arise, it is just that none of those parts are related to critical technology.

Actually, USA did outsourced one of the most critical and sensitive system from UK for f22! AN/ALR94 EW suite.
This is not very uncommon between strategic allies.
however, it can be argued, Pakistan didnt reach that level of trustworthiness yet. or technologically, it doesnt actually have anything to offer.

AN/ALR-94 is a BAE systems product and when it comes to BAE, you should understand that their US subsidiary, or rather US division, works within US regulations and control. It is like Leonardo's UK subsidiary, the Leonardo UK; both of them are more independant from their parent companies than you would imagine. So it is safe to say that AN/ALR-94 is a US product from a US company.

Apart from that, yeah, I don't see anything for Pakistan to offer Türkiye apart from the most basic and trivial parts and even that I'm doubtful.

I which world is F-35 more advanced than F-22?
Bigger number ≠ Better

In this world my friend. They are a decade apart in terms of its underlying technologies.

 

[Tsenal]

Why 1118 tho?

Does that mean something?

Probably an internal code

 

[Nilgiri]

If Indian members could give TLDR of this TFX youtube video that would be greatly appreciated. I really would live to learn about Indians reaction to TFX assemble.

He is just summarising what the dailysabah media articles were saying about it...and which this thread goes into more detail about here too about the recent picture releases and project updates.

i.e The overall design choices, current projected time line of development (significant dates of march 2023, 2025 and 2029), the likely (F110) engine choice for first batch, future engine options and so on. He also says clarification on whether project Azm (of Pakistan) will involve TFX remains to be seen later.

 

[Afif]

Pakistan and Bangladesh should have been in better places with this population. The importance of education... If you use Islam well, you will grow (Baghdad, Andalusia) but if you use it badly and for profit, you will be disgraced (Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Arabia etc.)

Economically speaking, BD is exactly where it expected to be.
And socio culturally, there is no comparison between us and Pakistan, not even close!

Look, The things is, Without knowing our geographic, geoeconomic and geopolitical background you cannot really say, 'where we should be now with the size of our population'

But this is not the suitable place to discuss that topic.
You should read my post here.

Post in thread 'Foreign Policy & Geopolitics' https://defencehub.live/threads/foreign-policy-geopolitics.3951/post-214135

 

[MADDOG]

Guys did you see any kind of Overpressure spill/relief doors on TF-X?

Because I didnt

Well there aren't a lot of possibilities. Do we know where this device is located on the F-16?

 

[Radonsider]

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Well there aren't a lot of possibilities. Do we know where this device is located on the F-16?

2 diamond shaped things look like antennas, the others seems like APU exhaust/intake.

Because you would have 2 different spill panels, respective to S duct locations?

 

[MADDOG]

2 diamond shaped things look like antennas, the others seems like APU exhaust/intake.

Because you would have 2 different spill panels, respective to S duct locations?

Yes, but we don't have a lot of options do we? That's why I was wondering if this thing exists on the F-16. I know there are two pressure relief doors on the F-14 (as far as I can remember).

 

[Afif]

They do outsource plenty of parts if the need arise, it is just that none of those parts are related to critical technology.


AN/ALR-94 is a BAE systems product and when it comes to BAE, you should understand that their US subsidiary, or rather US division, works within US regulations and control. It is like Leonardo's UK subsidiary, the Leonardo UK; both of them are more independant from their parent companies than you would imagine. So it is safe to say that AN/ALR-94 is a US product from a US company.

Apart from that, yeah, I don't see anything for Pakistan to offer Türkiye apart from the most basic and trivial parts and even that I'm doubtful.


In this world my friend. They are a decade apart in terms of its underlying technologies.

I know BAE system has north American subsidiary!
But AN/ALQ94 is not a US product.
Because, it was developed in the UK.
However, AN/ASQ-239 was developed by us subsidiary.
.

 

[monsteroftfx]

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Well there aren't a lot of possibilities. Do we know where this device is located on the F-16?

Diamonds are DAS system, aren't they?