TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

Afif

Experienced member
Moderator
Bangladesh Correspondent
DefenceHub Diplomat
Bangladesh Moderator
Messages
4,053
Reactions
64 7,395
Nation of residence
Bangladesh
Nation of origin
Bangladesh
Uh uh oh like CATS is worse on paper (compared to MX-15), TOYGUN is not(actually better on paper compared to EOTS). Also DAS is a continuous zoom system, not a dedicated IRST

Resolution-wise Toygun is superior to older EOTS.

But new 'Advanced EOTS' seems to have enhanced capabilities and available for block 4 upgrade.


I think it means F35 can't guide laser guided bombs

Apparently, according LM it can.

 

Radonsider

Contributor
Messages
1,362
Reactions
13 2,541
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Bosnia & Herzegovina
Resolution-wise Toygun is superior to older EOTS.

But new 'Advanced EOTS' seems to have enhanced capabilities and available for block 4 upgrade.




Apparently, according LM it can.

Well we don't know Advanced EOTS (probably better) but yeah he didn't quote Advanced EOTS
 

MADDOG

Contributor
Türkiye Correspondent
Professional
Messages
1,216
Reactions
31 7,963
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Cyprus
Screen Shot 2023-06-11 at 19.38.48.png


FyScm-GWAAI8AmV.jpeg


FyScm6IXwAMtfJ2.jpeg


FyScm5pXoAELhp0.jpeg

FyScm14WAAMwErF.jpeg


FySbcAYWwAM5m4y.jpeg


FySbcAZWwAA1gwC.jpeg


FySbcAaWAAMcBS4.jpeg

@EnderunDefence

From a recent event at Kahramankazan. No official delays to the maiden flight. Still scheduled to take place in late 2023.
 

MADDOG

Contributor
Türkiye Correspondent
Professional
Messages
1,216
Reactions
31 7,963
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Cyprus
KAAN's titanium bulkheads

Such structural production activities take place at TAI's No.10 building.

Screen Shot 2023-06-12 at 19.37.23.png

Screen Shot 2023-06-12 at 19.37.58.png


-A single titanium bulkhead weighs around the 100kg mark.









More of TAI's now famous No.10 building

-A400M forward-center fuselage




Screen Shot 2023-06-12 at 19.51.34.png







-A320 series section 19 production to the right


Screen Shot 2023-06-12 at 19.52.59.png












-A220 forward fuselage canopy section production



Screen Shot 2023-06-12 at 19.53.39.png


via TAI & TVNET Savunma Hattı
 

uçuyorum

Contributor
Messages
730
Reactions
9 1,192
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
KAAN's titanium bulkheads

Such structural production activities take place at TAI's No.10 building.

View attachment 58298
View attachment 58299

-A single titanium bulkhead weighs around the 100kg mark.









More of TAI's now famous No.10 building

-A400M forward-center fuselage




View attachment 58300






-A320 series section 19 production to the right


View attachment 58301











-A220 forward fuselage canopy section production



View attachment 58302

via TAI & TVNET Savunma Hattı
Is the bulkhead 3d printed
 

dBSPL

Experienced member
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Ambassador
Messages
2,073
Reactions
78 10,747
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
There's something abnormal about this picture! If the 3 giant side-by-side bays we see here show the exact layout of the internal weapons stations, someone is going to lose sleep. If perspective is not deceiving, and we take the full wingspan as 14m along with a little over 4 meter width of under fuselage witdh: the side IWBs have a width of around 100/110 cm and the main IWB has a width of around 140/160 cm. There are also 2 side weapons bays for fire IIR missiles. In addition to all this, there are several other small bays for countermeasures. But the big news in this photo is the underfuselage stations.

A width of 110 centimeters can allow for 3 or maybe even 4 Gökhan placements. In other words, we may be looking at a strike/CAP specialist 5th gen fighter jet, with 3+3, maybe 4+4 BVRAAM under the fuselage and 1+1 short-to-medium range AAM side weapon stations, with a total of 8 air-to-air missiles with weapon stations 1-2-4-5, while can also carry at least 2x2.000lb bombs at main IWB. If this is an optical illusion for me, skip the post. Anyway, I find it interesting that there were no comments on this photo for so long. lol.
 

MADDOG

Contributor
Türkiye Correspondent
Professional
Messages
1,216
Reactions
31 7,963
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Cyprus
There's something abnormal about this picture! If the 3 giant side-by-side bays we see here show the exact layout of the internal weapons stations, someone is going to lose sleep. If perspective is not deceiving, and we take the full wingspan as 14m along with a little over 4 meter width of under fuselage witdh: the side IWBs have a width of around 100/110 cm and the main IWB has a width of around 140/160 cm. There are also 2 side weapons bays for fire IIR missiles. In addition to all this, there are several other small bays for countermeasures. But the big news in this photo is the underfuselage stations.

A width of 110 centimeters can allow for 3 or maybe even 4 Gökhan placements. In other words, we may be looking at a strike/CAP specialist 5th gen fighter jet, with 3+3, maybe 4+4 BVRAAM under the fuselage and 1+1 short-to-medium range AAM side weapon stations, with a total of 8 air-to-air missiles with weapon stations 1-2-4-5, while can also carry at least 2x2.000lb bombs at main IWB. If this is an optical illusion for me, skip the post. Anyway, I find it interesting that there were no comments on this photo for so long. lol.
It is important not to confuse access hatches with IWB's.
 

MADDOG

Contributor
Türkiye Correspondent
Professional
Messages
1,216
Reactions
31 7,963
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Cyprus
KAAN'S ENGINEERING SIMULATOR


thumbs_b_c_176720ec3c8b37cdefaa30f5c21cb9c8.jpg
009_2023-07_2023-22_Haziran-26-20230613_2_59092863_90009128.jpg
009_2023-07_2023-22_Haziran-26-20230613_2_59092863_90009131.jpg
009_2023-07_2023-22_Haziran-26-20230613_2_59092863_90009143.jpg
009_2023-07_2023-22_Haziran-26-20230613_2_59092863_90009147.jpg
009_2023-07_2023-22_Haziran-26-20230613_2_59092863_90009150.jpg
009_2023-07_2023-22_Haziran-26-20230613_2_59092863_90009140.jpg


Test Pilot Gökhan Bayramoğlu:

"For us, the engineering part of the simulator is very important. Because as engineers, we will try to capture as much as possible in the first flight by testing the data that our team has designed, designed and expected to see in the simulator as test pilots. In the piloting part, it will be as follows: About the first flight on our aircraft and the prototypes that will come after that. We are trying to determine the procedures that the pilot should do by processing the pilot interfaces, how we can further reduce the pilot's workload, or by processing the emergency procedures and transferring them to our aircraft's user manual."


"All engineering and piloting capabilities are now supported by the simulator in current systems. After being supported with a simulator on the ground and verified, we only want to see how much this information deviates in the air and how accurately our work on the computer guides us. That's why the simulator is vital for us. We have over 40 flights in the simulator. We have approximately 120-130 hours of flight time. The feature of this simulator is not only the first flight. Our aircraft consists of two main elements. Aircraft and mission part. KAAN will be a weapon for us, not an airplane. Therefore, we want to make KAAN very powerful not only in terms of aircraft, performance, but also in terms of air-air, air-ground and electronic operations. That's why we try to improve ourselves by testing the applications, interfaces and effects of all the systems we need on this simulator. In the coming years, the number of our simulators will increase. Our simulators will continue as development and engineering. After that, it will continue as training simulators. In order to provide training to the pilots of our Air Force, we will also charge them simulators. After the pilots of our Air Force are trained here, we will bring them to the level where they will train new pilots with our simulators."



"It is an aircraft whose performance exceeds that of known and existing aircraft. We have very powerful engines. We use our simulators intensively to be able to use these engines and to familiarize the pilot with these engines. We try to make things about our simulators as realistic as possible. Then they will make their first flights. That's why we value the simulator so much, we do our best to improve it."




Simulator and Training Systems Integration Product Manager Gökhan Şimşek:


"Simulator infrastructures are infrastructures that can bring 200 to 1 in projects if they can be designed and executed at the right time. This return can be considered in terms of both time and cost." Şimşek said, "This kind of engineering simulator infrastructures are needed for such a big project to be less retroactive. We have been designing this infrastructure since 2016. How far we have solved the problem that we said we have solved on the table, we are prototyping it by going a few steps ahead. We go and see the taxi and engine start-up here before you see it, and we prototype it."


"We are where we planned, but the development process of this environment will continue with the aircraft. As long as the blocks of our aircraft grow, we will always go one step ahead and continue to solve some problems from the front here. We operate the infrastructure with two integrated structures. One is our flight functions, one is our mission functions. The flight function is actually to perform the flight, which is the basic function of any aircraft. Our flight tests are carried out for this purpose. We also have studies to analyze our mission-oriented air-air, air-ground performances and mission effectiveness. Besides these, we add cockpit specific pilot evaluations. In other words, our pilots "They come here, they evaluate the placements in the cockpit, the pilot interfaces in the relevant operational environment. Therefore, we are ahead in terms of design, we give the relevant design inputs to the teams, we integrate the incoming changes here again."


"As long as the aircraft lives, we will see Blok-10, 20, 30, 40, 40+ versions. Therefore, this structure will live with this aircraft. So it will go all the way. There will be no end to this. As long as this product continues to be developed, there will be feedback from the field. As long as everything that is included in the design will be re-evaluated in this environment. The sensors, weapons, national or foreign, all of which are required to be integrated, will be pre-integrated in this engineering simulator infrastructure. It is very exciting to work in this environment with such a large team. The airplane is the only product in Turkey and has a few similarities in the world. We believe that by working in engineering infrastructures here, we actually allow the development of many things in the national sense. We work here, but the people who will fly this plane were going to primary school when we started working. Therefore, this is actually a relay race. With this product I also consider it very critical that future generations are properly informed about the issue.”




Via AA
 
Last edited:

MADDOG

Contributor
Türkiye Correspondent
Professional
Messages
1,216
Reactions
31 7,963
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Cyprus
CAT-1 Test Pilot Murat Özpala

-I did a test & evaluation flight in KAAN's engineering simulator today.

-It has the most comfortable and spacious cockpit I have flown in my entire life… It's literally a "wheelhouse".

Screen Shot 2023-06-14 at 17.15.17.png
 

Strong AI

Contributor
Messages
504
Reactions
20 2,204
Nation of residence
Germany
Nation of origin
Turkey
Which fighter jets has he flown?
Total 5.550 flight hours (2.850 as Instructor & 2.000+ as Test Pilot) in various types of aircraft including F-4E Phantom/ F-16B/D, P-51 Mustang / L-39 Albatros / Extra 300 / F-16D / T-38A / SF-260D / T-37B / CN-235 / T-41D / T-6A TexanII / MU-2 / Pitts S2/ PA-44 Seminole / PA-31 Cheyenne / SR-22 Cirrus / DA-20 / T-33A / T-41D / C-172/ T-38M / A-29 Super Tucano / C-402/ T-6B TexanII/ KT-1 Wongbee / KO-1 / KT-1T / HURKUS (Experimental)
 

Baryshx

Contributor
Messages
951
Reactions
8 2,037
Website
www.twitter.com
Nation of residence
Turkey
Nation of origin
Turkey
Total 5.550 flight hours (2.850 as Instructor & 2.000+ as Test Pilot) in various types of aircraft including F-4E Phantom/ F-16B/D, P-51 Mustang / L-39 Albatros / Extra 300 / F-16D / T-38A / SF-260D / T-37B / CN-235 / T-41D / T-6A TexanII / MU-2 / Pitts S2/ PA-44 Seminole / PA-31 Cheyenne / SR-22 Cirrus / DA-20 / T-33A / T-41D / C-172/ T-38M / A-29 Super Tucano / C-402/ T-6B TexanII/ KT-1 Wongbee / KO-1 / KT-1T / HURKUS (Experimental)
Isn't he one of the 6 Turk pilots flying the F35?
 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom