@Radonsider Iirc, you talked about some sort of generator. Otherwise F110 does not generate that much power.
Could elaborate it one more time? I don't remember all of it.
Could elaborate it one more time? I don't remember all of it.
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Electric generation is not really limited by the F-110, well it is but not at this level.@Radonsider Iirc, you talked about some sort of generator. Otherwise F110 does not generate that much power.
Could elaborate it one more time? I don't remember all of it.
There were proposals to remove the lift fan and equip a 1MW generator for the normal F-135If F110 if modified as power turbine or something like that, then that is a different disscusion.
I mean, by definition engines require electric generators to provide power. Amd afaik, there is limitations here. (Both for the generator and the engine) Otherwise, they would have solved the F35's power shortage more easily.
Also F-110 recieving different generators is not uncommonThere were proposals to remove the lift fan and equip a 1MW generator for the normal F-135
Also F-110 recieving different generators is not uncommon
Well,yea. But I stumbled upon that number in a list of requirements paper about one of those 6th gen fighters while I was in a vacation, but now I can't find the bloody thing when I need it the most!Simply to put it, Tempest doesn't exist at this point in time
Well that's why Volt tech and İşbir produces those stuffYeah, that's what I was thinking. Some sort of special generator would be needed for KAAN' F110s to generate more power than the avarage ones.
According to information compiled by SavunmaSanayiST.com, people briefed on the visit told Bloomberg that Turkey is in talks with the United Kingdom to expand the scope of an existing free trade agreement and is in talks with Rolls-Royce Holdings on joint engine production for tank and fighter jet projects.
The National Fighter Aircraft KAAN Programme, which is being carried out under the prime contractor Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI), is also supported by the UK-based BAE Systems. On the other hand, Kale Group company Kale Arge is cooperating with Rolls-Royce to develop an engine for KAAN.
According to information obtained by SavunmaSanayiST.com from defence sources, the tender for KAAN's engine has not yet been finalised. In the tender, Kale Arge - Rolls-Royce and a group of three companies consisting of TRMotor, TEI and a Ukrainian company have submitted bids.
Don't hold your breath.MMU KAAN için kritik Erdoğan-Edward görüşmesi
Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan, Prens Edward'ı kabul edecek. Görüşmede, KAAN uçağı başta olmak üzere Türkiye — Birleşik Krallık savunma sanayii ilişkileri ele alınacak.www.savunmasanayist.com
Now this is what I would call a plot twist.
+1. Exactly.Don't hold your breath.
MMU KAAN için kritik Erdoğan-Edward görüşmesi
Cumhurbaşkanı Erdoğan, Prens Edward'ı kabul edecek. Görüşmede, KAAN uçağı başta olmak üzere Türkiye — Birleşik Krallık savunma sanayii ilişkileri ele alınacak.www.savunmasanayist.com
Now this is what I would call a plot twist.
If the RR thing actually materializes, TEI should pivot and develop TF20K(the logical next step after TF6K).Don't hold your breath.
I dont think they will join,unless their project with japanese is a rubbish.I hope they dont join the engine or KAAN project since its critical project for future of Turkish nation and everything should be national but i am pro to buy very cheap 4-6 tf23 frigates and upgrades them to modern warships with Turkish systems just like barboroes .
If UK join the KAAN than wait the further delays just like germans did with Altay
I hope they dont join the engine or KAAN project since its critical project for future of Turkish nation and everything should be national but i am pro to buy very cheap 4-6 tf23 frigates and upgrades them to modern warships with Turkish systems just like barboroes .
If UK join the KAAN than wait the further delays just like germans did with Altay
We haven't seen a precedent so nobody can say for sure but the top Turkish aviation official says we will, to me it means %100 doable.I don't know much about the Turkish aviation industry nor do I know much about Turkish foreign political interaction with other states. Having said that, IMO the Kaan project is faced with these problems
- US could block supply of US engines, crippling production. That is something that could be precipitated by the US view of Turkish actions within and without Turkiye ie if Turkiye pursued policies or actions repugnant to the US.
- Turkiye may not be capable of designing and building an engine suitable for use in the Kaan without considerable input from a foreign OEM able to do just that. Suitability for use in Kaan incorporates a time element (succeeding on a technical level in 2040 or 2050 is not much use). Is it realistic to think that a good engine can be designed, developed, tested and put into production by a Turkish OEM by 2030?
These are valid points and were reiterated many times in the forum. The fact is that we have no other choice. If we can't develop the engine we will be dependent on the US for F110s as you pointed out. And even if the US caused us no headache(which they will), KAAN would still be underpowered with twin-config F110s.I don't know much about the Turkish aviation industry nor do I know much about Turkish foreign political interaction with other states. Having said that, IMO the Kaan project is faced with these problems
- US could block supply of US engines, crippling production. That is something that could be precipitated by the US view of Turkish actions within and without Turkiye ie if Turkiye pursued policies or actions repugnant to the US.
- Turkiye may not be capable of designing and building an engine suitable for use in the Kaan without considerable input from a foreign OEM able to do just that. Suitability for use in Kaan incorporates a time element (succeeding on a technical level in 2040 or 2050 is not much use). Is it realistic to think that a good engine can be designed, developed, tested and put into production by a Turkish OEM by 2030?
Black looks so good, just black paint, gold markings and our flag *chef's kiss*