TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Quasar]

In the comparison table, it is noteworthy that although the MMU is one of the largest combat aircraft in the world in terms of physical size, it is in the middle in terms of maximum take-off weight (MTOW). Whether the 60,000lb maximum takeoff weight shared by SSB and TAI in the early stages of the project is still valid; We do not know whether the maximum takeoff weight of GTU-0 or Block 10, which hit the runway on March 16, will remain in this vicinity. In addition, empty weight data regarding the MMU has not yet been shared by official authorities. Considering the dimensions and other technical specifications of the other aircraft in the table, the MMU's maximum takeoff weight is 75-80,000lb; Curb weight can be expected to be around 35-40,000lb.

Various factors that determine the weight of the aircraft include the nature of the materials used in its production, the fuel carried, the weight of the payload and systems, and structural strength requirements. The volume of an aircraft with two engines and high weapons carrying capacity; Therefore, its weight will be high. Additionally, since the amount of fuel that an aircraft with a longer range and combat radius must carry will increase, this will be another factor that determines the total weight. However, on the other hand, the increase in total weight will determine the engine power required to keep this weight in the air. The fact that a combat aircraft frequently changes speed and altitude and performs agile maneuvers in air-to-air and air-to-ground combat missions requires a very delicate balance to be established between the components of weight - engine power - body strength.

In the images shared during the production stages and taxi testing, MMU's hull production quality clearly reflects TAI's experience in this regard. There is not much to comment on this issue: The outcome of both the experience TAI has accumulated over the years and the huge investment it has made for MMU is very evident.

https://www.siyahgribeyaz.com/2023/04/tfx-projesi-ne-ne-icin-nasl-5.html?m=1

 

[Baryshx]

Is this weight difference related to the use of composites and fiber cables throughout Kaan? 9.5 tons difference with the F15E seems strange.

Also, according to Temel Kotil, it looks like the Kaan will have extra systems. This means extra weights. There is also a weight difference in our ammunition.

 

[Huelague]

F15 EX:
Weight:Empty weight: Approximately 43,000 pounds (19,504 kilograms). Maximum takeoff weight: 81,000 pounds (36,700 kilograms).

Could be a useful estimate for current KAAN

T. Kotil said, we used lots of composites.

 

[TheInsider]

In the comparison table, it is noteworthy that although the MMU is one of the largest combat aircraft in the world in terms of physical size, it is in the middle in terms of maximum take-off weight (MTOW). Whether the 60,000lb maximum takeoff weight shared by SSB and TAI in the early stages of the project is still valid; We do not know whether the maximum takeoff weight of GTU-0 or Block 10, which hit the runway on March 16, will remain in this vicinity. In addition, empty weight data regarding the MMU has not yet been shared by official authorities. Considering the dimensions and other technical specifications of the other aircraft in the table, the MMU's maximum takeoff weight is 75-80,000lb; Curb weight can be expected to be around 35-40,000lb.

Various factors that determine the weight of the aircraft include the nature of the materials used in its production, the fuel carried, the weight of the payload and systems, and structural strength requirements. The volume of an aircraft with two engines and high weapons carrying capacity; Therefore, its weight will be high. Additionally, since the amount of fuel that an aircraft with a longer range and combat radius must carry will increase, this will be another factor that determines the total weight. However, on the other hand, the increase in total weight will determine the engine power required to keep this weight in the air. The fact that a combat aircraft frequently changes speed and altitude and performs agile maneuvers in air-to-air and air-to-ground combat missions requires a very delicate balance to be established between the components of weight - engine power - body strength.

In the images shared during the production stages and taxi testing, MMU's hull production quality clearly reflects TAI's experience in this regard. There is not much to comment on this issue: The outcome of both the experience TAI has accumulated over the years and the huge investment it has made for MMU is very evident.

https://www.siyahgribeyaz.com/2023/04/tfx-projesi-ne-ne-icin-nasl-5.html?m=1

27200kg is not the MTOW of MMU. It is the typical load of aircraft mistakenly quoted as MTOW. It is also not logical if you compare it to the F-15 and F-22. Arda Mevlütoğlu is mistaken.

I expect MTOW to be around ~35000kg. It might be a little lighter.

 

[Huelague]

Is Graphen in industrial use?

 

[2033]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762193466627399797

 

[Quasar]

Is this weight difference related to the use of composites and fiber cables throughout Kaan? 9.5 tons difference with the F15E seems strange.

Also, according to Temel Kotil, it looks like the Kaan will have extra systems. This means extra weights. There is also a weight difference in our ammunition.

another thing to remember Damn dont know the stiuation now but by then TAI had Sciaky 300″ x 108″ x 132″ volume 300 Series Electron Beam Additive Manufacturing (EBAM) 3D printer. “world’s largest” electron beam (EB) directed energy deposition (DED) system with that you can create titanium aerostructures up to 6 meters in length.... KAAN is not an ordinary 5 gen

TAI out of necessity 3D printed some of the largest titanium aerostructures in the world... for instance the main titanium structure holding two engines and as far as I know it has never done before.

 

[TR_123456]

Turks have never needed an enemy because they have always been able to fill this void from within themselves.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1761993655349318127

So,who is this guy,whats his status?

 

[Bogeyman]

So,who is this guy,whats his status?

Let me introduce you. Türkiye's biggest troll.

 

[DBdev]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762230492529631487

F22 stealth 2D ceramic matrix nozzles with wear and tear showing layers underneath.
F22 and F15 have similar size but empty weight of F22 is 5+ tonnes heavier, mostly because of RAM panels.

F-22 Stealth

www.globalsecurity.org

 

[Huelague]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762230492529631487

F22 stealth 2D ceramic matrix nozzles with wear and tear showing layers underneath.
F22 and F15 have similar size but empty weight of F22 is 5+ tonnes heavier, mostly because of RAM panels.

F-22 Stealth

www.globalsecurity.org

And RAM paint. KAANs RAM paint weights 'few' tonnes.

 

[Heartbang]

The movement of the stabilizers look quite alright from the side.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1761995711451701302

 

[Heartbang]

I'm not sure but that was edited version of mine , maybe some edited them in order to be taken down as thier way to remove many things , I remember relying on various sources because there was no comprehensive one covering all required cells but mainly
View attachment 65993 https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.php?aircraft_id=1085
then I fact check using AI ,

I checked the table again
View attachment 65994
so definitely not mine

Pre-revision specs. After our banishment from the F-35 program, the specs got revised.
The plane grew from 19 m in length to 21 m, and the top speed decreased from Mach 2 to 1.8.

 

[DBdev]

Radiation-absorbent material - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If simple iron ball RAM paint alone adds 1 tonnes to empty weight like Prof. Dr. Temel KOTIL says these thick composite panels above F22s load bearing inner skeleton, and panels made out of rust particles embedded in epoxy resin in certain areas must be causing the huge weight difference with F-15's thin metal skin.

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/...glitches-and-tape-caused-may-2020-f-22-crash/
Crashed F-22, reveals composite body.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Let me introduce you. Türkiye's biggest troll.

Why isn't MIT killing people like him who disturbs the bit of harmony we have in the Country on purpose. A strong state should always obliterate traitors and similar people.

 

[Barry]

The movement of the stabilizers look quite alright from the side.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1761995711451701302

How cute, KAAN is waving goodbye as it takes to the skies

 

[TR_123456]

The movement of the stabilizers look quite alright from the side.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1761995711451701302

Not to big?

 

[Gaucho]

Hello, I am Gaucho, I use Google Translate (sorry). If you have any questions or corrections, please let me know. I was thinking about being part of the forum and some details that I observed about this new Kaan encouraged me to share my thoughts and become a member, I've been reading them for about a year. It is not the same plane as the inaugural presentation, there are changes and that is good, I hope it continues to evolve. I leave you the images and you will see the differences in my opinion.

1-Slight change in the nose, inclination a few degrees downward.

2- Due to the above, between the nose and the sail the pilot has a greater downward vision. (Sensor locations are canceled for the first flight)

3-For what has been said, there is a minimal change in the front design of the cockpit dome (It now has a profile more similar to the F-35)

4-The landing gears are different, it seems that they are more robust (f/a18 hornet type )... Aircraft carrier type?

5- The front landing gear doors close. From what I have always noticed, they were open at all times, but the ones on the rear axle were not.IMG_20240226_205857.jpg

6- And I think we already know that elevators are even bigger. Well, I wanted to share this with you, best regards.

 

[Merzifonlu]

Why isn't MIT killing people like him who disturbs the bit of harmony we have in the Country on purpose. A strong state should always obliterate traitors and similar people.

That's because the end of this road leads to Hell. As a result of that mind set the following happens: First, election boards are established and these boards prevent those who do not like the current government from participating in the elections. Then, even a single person is prevented by law from protesting. Then the opposition figures die one by one. The result: Putin's "strong" Russia. In other words, it is a hell that people are afraid to even think about. That's why we tolerate these types of trolls.

 

[Fatman17]

TAI, Baykar continue to rack up aerospace milestones

Turkey has celebrated several defence aerospace milestones in recent days, including the first flight of the Turkish Aerospace Kaan fighter and continued progress with the Baykar Technologies Akinci unmanned air vehicle.

www.flightglobal.com

Turkey racks up military achievements