TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Zafer]

Much more quiet than I expected. Which is good because when we talk about stealth, sonic signature is also included in that.

And this footage is also a testament to how supermaneuverable this aircraft is. The slightest input to the elevons makes the airframe pitch up dramatically, like a prancing horse

It is obvious that the pilot has put extra effort to take-off in a rather dignified manner, and not to launch straight to the moon

Theoretically a higher bypass engine is quieter as it has a thicker cold air stream around the louder exhaust stream. Custom Kaan engine is supposedly one such higher bypass engine.

 

[Gaucho]

In English please,no other language.
En inglés por favor, ningún otro idioma.

I know but I'm staying that way, I'll correct it

 

[dBSPL]

RAW Engine Sound

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762372674154590318

Are you concerned about your country's independence? Let KAAN help you. Listen to the sound of freedom.

Grek: And me?
TAI: Sen gelme ulan ayı!

 

[TheInsider]

Saudis want to be a part of the Kaan project.

 

[Huelague]

Saudis want to be a part of the Kaan project.

Technically or financially?

 

[Asena_great]

Saudis want to be a part of the Kaan project.

hell no

 

[uçuyorum]

hell no

A mistake that should not happen for any cost

 

[Huelague]

A mistake that should not happen for any cost

I have no problems with financially investments.

 

[Zafer]

All nations want to sell stuff to Saudi Arabia, Türkiye is no exception.

 

[Iskander]

Saudis want to be a part of the Kaan project.

15 or 20 years ago, the Saudis ordered $110 billion worth of weapons from the United States. Serious clients. It's not easy to give up.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they order KAAN for at least $100 billion. “Halal products” must be written in large letters on board the KAAN.

 

[Radko]

KAAN
-halal product-

Lol

 

[Strong AI]

No F-35, no problem, as Turkey's fifth-generation fighter jet takes off

Turkey was expelled from the American F-35 fighter jet programme after it acquired Russian air defence technology.

www.forces.net

 

[Lool]

A mistake that should not happen for any cost

It depends by what he actually means by "joining" the program

If Saudi Arabia wants to be a financial source to the KAAN program in exchange for gaining priviliges like cheaper sale prices, bigger discounts, and priorities to Saudi Orders compared to other countries, then I actually support the notion. KAAN program is undoubtedly expensive and costed and will still cost a looot; thus, having Saudi Arabia bearing a major chunk of the financial side for a bit of minor priviliges is a good deal for both sides

However, if Saudi Arabia wants to be involved in the Technology and Know-hows of building KAAN, then the onky answer is the middle finger tbh. The acquired tech and know-how is a result of suffering and embargoes for tens of years that Turkey should never even sell it to other nations

Maybe @TheInsider can clarify more regarding the "extent" to which the Saudis wanna be involved in the program

 

[Merzifonlu]

If Saudis give us money (a lot of money) for TF-35000, then welcome for me.

In return, they may have a share in the IP rights of the engine and the production of some of its parts. This will be a big gain for them in the long run.

 

[Zafer]

It depends by what he actually means by "joining" the program

If Saudi Arabia wants to be a financial source to the KAAN program in exchange for gaining priviliges like cheaper sale prices, bigger discounts, and priorities to Saudi Orders compared to other countries, then I actually support the notion. KAAN program is undoubtedly expensive and costed and will still cost a looot; thus, having Saudi Arabia bearing a major chunk of the financial side for a bit of minor priviliges is a good deal for both sides

However, if Saudi Arabia wants to be involved in the Technology and Know-hows of building KAAN, then the onky answer is the middle finger tbh. The acquired tech and know-how is a result of suffering and embargoes for tens of years that Turkey should never even sell it to other nations

Maybe @TheInsider can clarify more regarding the "extent" to which the Saudis wanna be involved in the program

Saudi Arabia can make parts of the plane if they like, if they want to get involved in plane parts making, similar to domestic subcontractors in Türkiye. This maybe a prestige issue for the KSA public as they want to be an industrialized country. If this is a selling point I don't see why not. Or they can even develop their own weapons for the plane or sensors and bring up suggestions to customize and upgrade the plane. TAI have offices in Pakistan, Malaysia and maybe other countries, why not one in the KSA. I am all positive.

 

[Rodeo]

If Saudis give us money (a lot of money) for TF-35000, then welcome for me.

In return, they may have a share in the IP rights of the engine and the production of some of its parts. This will be a big gain for them in the long run.

It would accelerate TF35K, without which they would have no way of getting their hands on KAAN, for sure.

 

[TR_123456]

There is nothing wrong with KSA joining the project,we need economicly strong partners.
I believe the UAE also wants to join the projects which means the GCC will be involved.
As someone already predicted,the Muslim Fighter Jet attracts many countries,especially Black African countries(people keep forgetting the potential of Africa).
We can even form a consortium in the future.

@Cabatli_TR @Yasar_TR @Mis_TR_Like @Test7 ?

 

[_Mu_]

Saudis want to be a part of the Kaan project.

If true, that would be great news for the project. It will undoubtedly accelerate the entire timeline, open up more markets, and secure resources for KAAN's next-generation successor. Türkiye is not China, which can independently create a large market by itself for such a sophisticated and sustainable expensive supply chain. And it's important to note that Azerbaijan or even Qatar are not large enough, and Pakistan is not wealthy enough

Securing this opportunity will open more cooperation in other areas too; for example, Altay and the list will continue. Importantly, it will open up more markets. Just Google how the Rafale market share was non-existent and suddenly skyrocketed after the first few deals.

Here are some quotes from the 2023 military balance I read recently in Saudi Arabia setion:

• Economic recovery in Saudi Arabia and other oil exporters, along with the rise in oil prices in 2022, may enable increased investment over the next few years. In October 2022, Saudi Arabia announced plans to boost public spending by 18% in 2023.
• Currently, there is only a modest domestic defense-industrial base, mainly focused on the assembly and overhaul of land systems. However, Riyadh continues to reaffirm and pursue an intention to spend 50% of its defense outlays locally as part of its Vision 2030 initiative. They have also established the state-owned Saudi Arabian Military Industries to oversee local defense production.

Being part of the project does not necessarily mean there is full technology transfer and know-how. Let's take a look at the F-35 model and it's not the only one.

They have three levels of international participation, reflecting the financial stake in the program, the amount of technology transfer, and subcontracts open for bid by national companies. The order in which countries can obtain production aircraft is also considered.

Overall, this would be a normal process and still a huge gain, in my opinion

 

[Zafer]

There is nothing wrong with KSA joining the project,we need economicly strong partners.
I believe the UAE also wants to join the projects which means the GCC will be involved.
As someone already predicted,the Muslim Fighter Jet attracts many countries,especially Black African countries(people keep forgetting the potential of Africa).
We can even form a consortium in the future.

@Cabatli_TR @Yasar_TR @Mis_TR_Like @Test7 ?

Afrika needs drones and smaller planes to counter terrorism.

 

[Oublious]

Looks like KSA is going for full run to Turkish toys, Kaan is 1 of them.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1762414183927173547