TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

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In the comparison table, it is noteworthy that although the MMU is one of the largest combat aircraft in the world in terms of physical size, it is in the middle in terms of maximum take-off weight (MTOW). Whether the 60,000lb maximum takeoff weight shared by SSB and TAI in the early stages of the project is still valid; We do not know whether the maximum takeoff weight of GTU-0 or Block 10, which hit the runway on March 16, will remain in this vicinity. In addition, empty weight data regarding the MMU has not yet been shared by official authorities. Considering the dimensions and other technical specifications of the other aircraft in the table, the MMU's maximum takeoff weight is 75-80,000lb; Curb weight can be expected to be around 35-40,000lb.

Various factors that determine the weight of the aircraft include the nature of the materials used in its production, the fuel carried, the weight of the payload and systems, and structural strength requirements. The volume of an aircraft with two engines and high weapons carrying capacity; Therefore, its weight will be high. Additionally, since the amount of fuel that an aircraft with a longer range and combat radius must carry will increase, this will be another factor that determines the total weight. However, on the other hand, the increase in total weight will determine the engine power required to keep this weight in the air. The fact that a combat aircraft frequently changes speed and altitude and performs agile maneuvers in air-to-air and air-to-ground combat missions requires a very delicate balance to be established between the components of weight - engine power - body strength.

In the images shared during the production stages and taxi testing, MMU's hull production quality clearly reflects TAI's experience in this regard. There is not much to comment on this issue: The outcome of both the experience TAI has accumulated over the years and the huge investment it has made for MMU is very evident.

https://www.siyahgribeyaz.com/2023/04/tfx-projesi-ne-ne-icin-nasl-5.html?m=1
 

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Is this weight difference related to the use of composites and fiber cables throughout Kaan? 9.5 tons difference with the F15E seems strange.

Also, according to Temel Kotil, it looks like the Kaan will have extra systems. This means extra weights. There is also a weight difference in our ammunition.
 

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In the comparison table, it is noteworthy that although the MMU is one of the largest combat aircraft in the world in terms of physical size, it is in the middle in terms of maximum take-off weight (MTOW). Whether the 60,000lb maximum takeoff weight shared by SSB and TAI in the early stages of the project is still valid; We do not know whether the maximum takeoff weight of GTU-0 or Block 10, which hit the runway on March 16, will remain in this vicinity. In addition, empty weight data regarding the MMU has not yet been shared by official authorities. Considering the dimensions and other technical specifications of the other aircraft in the table, the MMU's maximum takeoff weight is 75-80,000lb; Curb weight can be expected to be around 35-40,000lb.

Various factors that determine the weight of the aircraft include the nature of the materials used in its production, the fuel carried, the weight of the payload and systems, and structural strength requirements. The volume of an aircraft with two engines and high weapons carrying capacity; Therefore, its weight will be high. Additionally, since the amount of fuel that an aircraft with a longer range and combat radius must carry will increase, this will be another factor that determines the total weight. However, on the other hand, the increase in total weight will determine the engine power required to keep this weight in the air. The fact that a combat aircraft frequently changes speed and altitude and performs agile maneuvers in air-to-air and air-to-ground combat missions requires a very delicate balance to be established between the components of weight - engine power - body strength.

In the images shared during the production stages and taxi testing, MMU's hull production quality clearly reflects TAI's experience in this regard. There is not much to comment on this issue: The outcome of both the experience TAI has accumulated over the years and the huge investment it has made for MMU is very evident.

https://www.siyahgribeyaz.com/2023/04/tfx-projesi-ne-ne-icin-nasl-5.html?m=1
27200kg is not the MTOW of MMU. It is the typical load of aircraft mistakenly quoted as MTOW. It is also not logical if you compare it to the F-15 and F-22. Arda Mevlütoğlu is mistaken.

I expect MTOW to be around ~35000kg. It might be a little lighter.
 
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Is this weight difference related to the use of composites and fiber cables throughout Kaan? 9.5 tons difference with the F15E seems strange.

Also, according to Temel Kotil, it looks like the Kaan will have extra systems. This means extra weights. There is also a weight difference in our ammunition.


another thing to remember Damn dont know the stiuation now but by then TAI had Sciaky 300″ x 108″ x 132″ volume 300 Series Electron Beam Additive Manufacturing (EBAM) 3D printer. “world’s largest” electron beam (EB) directed energy deposition (DED) system with that you can create titanium aerostructures up to 6 meters in length.... KAAN is not an ordinary 5 gen :devilish:

TAI out of necessity 3D printed some of the largest titanium aerostructures in the world... for instance the main titanium structure holding two engines and as far as I know it has never done before.
 
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I'm not sure but that was edited version of mine , maybe some edited them in order to be taken down as thier way to remove many things , I remember relying on various sources because there was no comprehensive one covering all required cells but mainly
View attachment 65993 https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.php?aircraft_id=1085
then I fact check using AI ,

I checked the table again
View attachment 65994
so definitely not mine
Pre-revision specs. After our banishment from the F-35 program, the specs got revised.
The plane grew from 19 m in length to 21 m, and the top speed decreased from Mach 2 to 1.8.
 

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If simple iron ball RAM paint alone adds 1 tonnes to empty weight like Prof. Dr. Temel KOTIL says these thick composite panels above F22s load bearing inner skeleton, and panels made out of rust particles embedded in epoxy resin in certain areas must be causing the huge weight difference with F-15's thin metal skin.

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/...glitches-and-tape-caused-may-2020-f-22-crash/
Crashed F-22, reveals composite body.
 
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