TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Hasanrize]

Will it not have al the features a 5th gen has to have except the powerful engines?

It needs more than an engine.

 

[Radonsider]

I will just quote a post from Secretprojectsforum (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/turkish-tfx-national-combat-aircraft.13448/)
By "PringleiPrick"

"W.r.t. to calling the TF-X a stealthy F-15EX is selling it a bit short, in my opinion. I think you're right in terms of flight dynamics: similar thrust engines (Block 1), approx. same size, probably similar weight if we take into account TF-X' extensive use of composites. However, its tech will almost certainly exceed the F-15EX: built-in EOTS and IRST, DAS, larger GaN AESA, HMD only (no HUD, a la F-35)... At least, I hope it will."

 

[Oublious]

Also let's not forget the chart made by @Cabatli_TR View attachment 51997

lol


still people are questioning TFX...

 

[Afif]

I will just quote a post from Secretprojectsforum (https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/turkish-tfx-national-combat-aircraft.13448/)
By "PringleiPrick"

"W.r.t. to calling the TF-X a stealthy F-15EX is selling it a bit short, in my opinion. I think you're right in terms of flight dynamics: similar thrust engines (Block 1), approx. same size, probably similar weight if we take into account TF-X' extensive use of composites. However, its tech will almost certainly exceed the F-15EX: built-in EOTS and IRST, DAS, larger GaN AESA, HMD only (no HUD, a la F-35)... At least, I hope it will."

i think, he was talking about an abandoned Boeing project where they they try to build an stealthy f15 with heavy ram paint, plus internal weapon bay and some other minor modifications, not the f15ex.

 

[Radonsider]

i think, he was talking about an abandoned Boeing project where they they try to build an stealthy f15 with heavy ram paint, plus internal weapon bay and some other minor modifications, not the f15ex.

He is talking about F-15EX, and he is right

 

[Afif]

He is talking about F-15EX, and he is right

i meant, @Turan

 

[TR_123456]

It needs more than an engine.

What more?

 

[Hasanrize]

What more?

@MADDOG can give more information about missing parts.

BÜRFİS radar is the first that comes to my mind.

 

[MADDOG]

@MADDOG can give more information about missing parts.

BÜRFİS radar is the first that comes to my mind.

IRST, EOTS and other systems will not be present. Including the BÜRFİS system ofc. Some sensors will not be present either. I highly doubt the HMD will be ready for rollout as well. These are all systems that are in active development/ nearing the end of their development.

 

[Radonsider]

People, please keep in mind that we cannot take Rollout model as a piece for comparison (for subsystems), most of them won't be present

 

[Combat-Master]

Rollout model will still be more 5th gen then some flying models of so-called 5th gen aircraft

 

[Radonsider]

Rollout model will still be more 5th gen then some flying models of so-called 5th gen aircraft

At least airframe will be

 

[KAAN]

Was DIRCM developed for TFX or for helicopters and transport aircraft?

 

[Siper>MMU]

Also let's not forget the chart made by @Cabatli_TR View attachment 51997

I hope they don't use UV sensors for MWS.. We should go for MWIR IR like DAS.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Was DIRCM developed for TFX or for helicopters and transport aircraft?

Strategic Land, Naval and Air platforms will all have DIRCM in different variants. Naval and some land platforms will use Nazar series (Nazar-Kara, Nazar-Deniz and Nazar-Lite). Aerial platforms will use Yildirim variants. There is also another DIRCM development project called Dragon developed by Tubitak.

 

[Radonsider]

I hope they don't use UV sensors for MWS.. We should go for MWIR IR like DAS.

I hope too, but both have their own advantages

 

[Cabatli_TR]

I hope they don't use UV sensors for MWS.. We should go for MWIR IR like DAS.

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Update​

• (KÖFİS project) IR-MWS: Aircraft Missile Warning System: The critical sensor of FEWS (New generation Fighter Electronic Warfare System)​
• (NEFIS project) UV-MWS: Helicopter Missile Warning System: Critical sensor of HEWS-II (Helicopter Electronic Warfare System)​

 

[Rodeo]

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Update​

• (KÖFİS project) IR-MWS: Aircraft Missile Warning System: I think It will be the critical sensor of FEWS (New generation Fighter Electronic Warfare System)​
• (NEFIS project) UV-MWS: Helicopter Missile Warning System: Most critical sensor of HEWS-II (Helicopter Electronic Warfare System)​

These designations are killing me

 

[Radonsider]

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Update​

• (KÖFİS project) IR-MWS: Aircraft Missile Warning System: The critical sensor of FEWS (New generation Fighter Electronic Warfare System)​
• (NEFIS project) UV-MWS: Helicopter Missile Warning System: Critical sensor of HEWS-II (Helicopter Electronic Warfare System)​

Noice, glad to hear that we are going with IR

 

[Afif]

Rollout model will still be more 5th gen then some flying models of so-called 5th gen aircraft

which one? su 57?