TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

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When you make the system you know what every function does, you don't need anyone else to tell you how to control it. The manufacture of the plane will be working hand in hand with Turkish pilots and i suspect there would have been a back and forth over what works and what doesn't and eventually they will settle on the best outcome. Those initial pilots who are part of the development process will be used to train other Turkish pilots.
 

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With ATSS, Tf35K turbofan, APU, AESA Radar, landing gears, canopy, Tulgar HMD and ejection seat programs, National contribution of our institutes for KAAN MMU will most likely exceed %90s in Block20 version.
 

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Do we have any information about İRİS-300?

I expect it to be 1280x1024, if it is 640x512 I would be really disappointed...
 

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With ATSS, Tf35K turbofan, APU, AESA Radar, landing gears, canopy, Tulgar HMD and ejection seat programs, National contribution of our institutes for KAAN MMU will most likely exceed %90s in Block20 version.
I wonder what systems will be left to outsource once we make these systems in-house. Some computer chips and microelectronics maybe and raw materials that can be found as commodity.
 

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With ATSS, Tf35K turbofan, APU, AESA Radar, landing gears, canopy, Tulgar HMD and ejection seat programs, National contribution of our institutes for KAAN MMU will most likely exceed %90s in Block20 version.

Is there any critical thing in that 10%? Like FBW or Computers or 🕹️? Or even codes? I really 🤔 wonder.
 

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I didn't get that 🤷🏻

Fly-by-optics​

Fly-by-optics is sometimes used instead of fly-by-wire because it offers a higher data transfer rate, immunity to electromagnetic interference and lighter weight. In most cases, the cables are just changed from electrical to optical fiber cables. Sometimes it is referred to as "fly-by-light" due to its use of fiber optics. The data generated by the software and interpreted by the controller remain the same. Fly-by-light has the effect of decreasing electro-magnetic disturbances to sensors in comparison to more common fly-by-wire control systems. The Kawasaki P-1 is the first production aircraft in the world to be equipped with such a flight control system.

 

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Fly-by-optics​

Fly-by-optics is sometimes used instead of fly-by-wire because it offers a higher data transfer rate, immunity to electromagnetic interference and lighter weight. In most cases, the cables are just changed from electrical to optical fiber cables. Sometimes it is referred to as "fly-by-light" due to its use of fiber optics. The data generated by the software and interpreted by the controller remain the same. Fly-by-light has the effect of decreasing electro-magnetic disturbances to sensors in comparison to more common fly-by-wire control systems. The Kawasaki P-1 is the first production aircraft in the world to be equipped with such a flight control system.



Damn bruh thanks for the detailed answer. I can't imagine a Turkiye with vast energy sources. I think Greek reporter is really right to feel threatened about us. He really knows the history very well and he saw the potential even before most of us. I hope we can find much more resources both from Mavi Vatan / Ana Vatan
 

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Bro, i understand your excitement but to be honest, equipped with F110 TFX is not 'roughly' on per with F-22. (Not yet)

1. 2x F-119 has dry thrust of 52000lbf compared to 34000lbf of 2x F110.
That is a considerable difference.

2. Besides, F-22 has thrust vector control which gives it unmatched manoeuvrability at very high altitudes where horizontal stabiliser and flaps alone are not sufficient enough for high manoeuvrability.

3. Also unlike F110, F119 with its unique nozzle has proper IR stealth.
these days, the missiles do those maneuvers against jets, so TFX doesnt have to be that close, with its irst, it can fire missiles from long distance, or with its way better radar.
 

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Stop filling this forum with your trash. Your post history is nothing but anti-Turkiye propaganda.
İm a tier 2 shitposter and its not Turkiye its TURKEY.

on a serious note; does anyone have more info on the engines feeding the ew suite etc?
 

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İm a tier 2 shitposter and its not Turkiye its TURKEY.

on a serious note; does anyone have more info on the engines feeding the ew suite etc?
They are not related to engines, they are about the electrical/generation system. Iirc Temel amca stated that it is going to have 2x120kVA
 

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Might have something to do with MMU's requested timeline by the army.


to be expected from our American allies who constantly work to inflame tensions in the region. They will keep arming them as they see fit to counter our internal developments, we should be developing a strategy that will allow us to take greece quickly out the game should a war take place. We should learn from the Russian fiasco.

When the war comes, we cannot make the mistake in it dragging out because the west will support the greeks much heavier and quicker against us then they do ukraine against Russia.
 

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to be expected from our American allies who constantly work to inflame tensions in the region. They will keep arming them as they see fit to counter our internal developments, we should be developing a strategy that will allow us to take greece quickly out the game should a war take place. We should learn from the Russian fiasco.

When the war comes, we cannot make the mistake in it dragging out because the west will support the greeks much heavier and quicker against us then they do ukraine against Russia.
True, it's a matter of timing as well. Azerbaijan's timing right when covid-19 crisis was hitting U.S. and EU the hardest was immaculate. Any other time and they would have stuck their nose much further inside the conflict.
 

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In TAI promotion video, they praised Kaan as an agile. Now, they say, they are not.
In modern combat what matters is that one spots the other earlier in their radar, beyond visual range. And so are autocannons and external pylons. It only has to carry BVRAAMs in its internal bays. Only that would be considered a legitimate, strategic asset useful against a modern adversary.
This project needs more funding as well. Aksit said "development of the engine would require 10+ billion USD, but we'll manage with half that.". Considering JSF project cost totals around 400 billion USD in total according to US DoD, this doesn't sound assuring in the slightest. Can you, or rather, SHOULD you really cheap out on literally the ONE platform, that determines whether you win or lose the war, and needs to be on the cutting edge? Sure, you could come up with something that is far inferior to the one that the enemy will acquire in around a decade, it'll see you hand over air supremacy to the enemy and the rest will be what you saw in Iraq.
I sincerely hope they do a good job with the RAM coating and its RCS will be comparable to the F-35.
 

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