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Actually its a good thing to have many friends or ally.
Even the mighty US prefer having many friends with them not only for political but also economically too.

yep and being able to create defence ties with 3rd nations is a great way to cement relationships.

In the beginning i get why many nations were reluctant to join the TFX, even now their is still a big danger and thats the engine issue. But if the engine issue is overcome, its in Turkiyes interests to sell this thing to as many nations as possible and to offer the best terms possible.

If it were me i would be approaching as many nations as possible seeing if deals can be made today.
 

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The United States is capable of building airplanes on its own, but why is it building them together with many other countries? This means making friends and allies in all fields, strategic, military, economic, political, etc.
 

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TAI has slowly started modifying KAAN. One of the earliest examples of this was the addition of sealants. I expect bigger modifications to take place in a short while. In the meantime here are some pics from the earlier interview.

Thx to @Combat-Master (I think?) for initially noticing the final picture. It was a wonderful catch. Shows the extent of tests that are underway on the current airframe.


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TAI has slowly started modifying KAAN. One of the earliest examples of this was the addition of sealants. I expect bigger modifications to take place in a short while. In the meantime here are some pics from the earlier interview.

Thx to @Combat-Master (I think?) for initially noticing the final picture. It was a wonderful catch. Shows the extent of tests that are underway on the current airframe.


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Could you highlight the difference. I have no idea what to look for. Thanks!
 

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Could you highlight the difference. I have no idea what to look for. Thanks!
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Note the gaps. This was done pre-rollout.

As for the rest, you shouldn't expect major differences. Look out for test equipment to be added later on.
 

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If the government decide to buy 5th generation jet and turkey not willing to sell to malaysia then we will buy from south korea.
In fact during LIMA,korean defense minister is offering their latest jet kf 21 or future 5th generation jet to malaysia.
Luckily,Turkiye is not run by people like you .
lets be honest, its not that simple. I dont think US would let Korea to be free like Turkey, kf21 project and systems in their latest exports show that so many western systems hat needs time to develop at home. But i agree that it needs to be sold and thats what Turkey wants, create its own side and arm them with latest tech, basically allies
 

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Their love and affection is based on a skewed perception about Turkish people, fueled by blatant cultural propaganda exports. They more often then not try to project their perception on us. They are great allies, deserving the perks and all due regards. I hope that cordial relations will continue, especially in the defence sector always. But societal interactions should be held to a minimum to preserve this imo.
The relationship between Turkey and Pakistan is based on face-to-face interactions, and cooperation at the military level over the course of many decades now. It has little to nothing to do with the average pakistanis thoughts or feelings, or their consumption of ertugrul, though these things can be valuable for maintenance of public sentiment supporting the partnership on the pakistani side. It is ostensibly a relationship between the educated classes of pakistan, and Turkey.

We are a country of 260 million, mostly illiterate/underserved people. The educated segments of pakistani society, like anywhere else, probably wouldn't hold any judgement towards the modern lifestyle of many Turks. What you see on the internet I'm guessing is often time an exposure to those uneducated masses, the kind who are shell-shocked that their Halime Sultan wears jeans... Nevertheless, these people are far from any position of decision making so not a risk factor.

As for the immigrants, we can only be ashamed at what kind of foolishness exists within our borders and now seems to flee from our borders as well. In general, this new cohort of adult male refugees are basically the worst their respective countries have to offer. Cowards and imbeciles who should be trialed-by-fire at a battlefront to cleanse them.

We are facing down serious issues as a country, and time will tell how these things play out. I have heard it remarked that Pakistan as a country may cease to exist, but the Pakistani Army will live on.

Pray for us please.
 

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All in one was not good strategy each aircraft deserve seperate division
 

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Hürkuş B is not armed version of Hükuş A,its completely different aircraft
 

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If the government decide to buy 5th generation jet and turkey not willing to sell to malaysia then we will buy from south korea.
In fact during LIMA,korean defense minister is offering their latest jet kf 21 or future 5th generation jet to malaysia.
Luckily,Turkiye is not run by people like you .

Türkiye and Turks, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bagladesh etc. sees countries and peoples as brothers and friends to him.

On the day that Türkiye and the Turks make the Kaan a 5th generation warplane, these countries will also have their 5th generation warplanes. No doubt about it. Don't worry.
 
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Ukrainian engine developer Ivchenko Progress has entered the "Preliminary Design Phase Project" tender for the development of the turbofan engine of KAAN.

-Ivchenko Progress established a cooperation model with TEI within the scope of the tender.

Via SST

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At this point I am considering to establish my own company Afif-Motor, and submitt my offer to SSB before tender ends.

Jokes aside, this tender is taking too long. It is already 2023 and KAAN gonna make its maiden flight soon, yet the Engine development is not officially awarded.
 
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I am in favor of both groups developing a prototype.

It would have been ideal.
But I remember, Mr. Demir saying, State doesn't have enough funding for two simultaneous project. It's gonna be a single project by chosen company or a merger of all companies together.
 
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Let me emphasise this: SavunmaSanayiST does not publish information that it has not officially confirmed. This news is also officially confirmed. Official!

We follow the posts in different defence forums, we see those who are upset and those who slander #FakeNews :)
 

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Ukrainian engine developer Ivchenko Progress has entered the "Preliminary Design Phase Project" tender for the development of the turbofan engine of KAAN.

-Ivchenko Progress established a cooperation model with TEI within the scope of the tender.

Via SST

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It would be really interesting to see what Ivchenko Progress is proposing.
1. They do not have a manufacturing facility.
2. They have never worked with single crystal and 3D technologies.
3. They have never helped build a military engine that has more than 6000lbf dry thrust.

Motor Sich has never built a military engine with more than 6000lbf dry thrust. Our TF35K engine has to have a dry thrust of 24-26000lbf.
To achieve the performance levels we are aspiring to, we have to use 3rd generation single crystal turbine blades and additive manufacturing techniques. These are technologies that Ivchenko Progress do not possess.
 

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The best possible scenario is; SSB encouraged TEI/TrMotor to start working on preliminary design stage and As a result, they have been working since 2/3 years and the number of engineers in program exceeded to 300. Later, SSB likely announce the winner as TrMotor/TEI/IP partnership, and later Kale also join the big club as development partner for Tf35K.
 
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