TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Spitfire9]

It's not the first time Indonesia has been linked to the KAAN. It will be healthy for Turkiye to get partners on board the KAAN program. The critical stages of the project have been accomplished, or are near completion. However, as we know the leverage and the offers that Turkiye made at the beginning of the program are not available today. Hopefully, there are still opportunities that can be discussed and offered just like the F-35 program. Do we know what South Korea offered to Indonesia as a participant in the KF-21 program?

What is a 'partner' in your view? Is it a country interested in investing in KAAN production? Are there any countries with the technology needed to contribute to further KAAN development?

 

[Ahlatshah]

What is there to cooperate about?

It is called chips, semiconductors, FPGAs, name it. We desperately need those. Indonesia and particularly Malaysia are vital for us.

 

[TheInsider]

I expect Indonesia to lower the priority of the KF-21 program and join the Turkish MMU/TF-X program. Indonesian authorities have been unhappy with the program for a while and Indonesia gives more and more contracts and importance to Turkish defense companies. I expect a MOU to be signed at IDEF 2025.

We will probably see a mock-up of the national engine for KAAN and KAAN GTU-1 prototype at IDEF 2025. IMHO this is the last step before someone can be a partner of the project and enjoy benefits. After that, I don't think anyone can be more than a customer. Of course a customer can also be part of the project but a partner is inherently different. In late 2026 we will see the KAAN GTU-1 prototype in an advanced configuration with KARAT IRST, Toygun EOTS, Murad-600A AESA radar(as part of BURFIS RF suite), Yıldırım-300 DIRCM, IRIS-300 DAS installed on the fighter.

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Within the scope of the Signing Ceremony held in Indonesia; ASELSAN signed strategic agreements regarding the SARP Remote Controlled Stabilized Weapon System, CENK 4D Search Radar, Artillery Fire Control System and Missile Data Link, and ROKETSAN signed strategic agreements regarding the SUNGUR Air Defense Missile System, ÇAKIR Cruise Missile and MAM-L Mini Smart Munition.

Additionally, important Memorandums of Understanding (MoU) were signed regarding unmanned surface vehicles, tank modernization and maintenance of missile systems.

 

[Spitfire9]

It is called chips, semiconductors, FPGAs, name it. We desperately need those. Indonesia and particularly Malaysia are vital for us.

Any reason Turkiye cannot buy them from the producers?

 

[Ahlatshah]

Any reason Turkiye cannot buy them from the producers?

It depends. We can buy directly from manufacturers right now but in a conflict, who knows? One thing is certain, we want independence but no country cant stand alone much longer. We need allies, best way to do is high profile defence agreements. Besides, we have what they dont have, they have what we dont have. None of our interests conflict with theirs. Collaboration with Indonesia and Malaysia is very important and necessary.

Btw not engines, certainly not sensors but semiconductor industry is our real weakness now, both in civilian and military applications and I believe it should be discussed more.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

What is a 'partner' in your view? Is it a country interested in investing in KAAN production? Are there any countries with the technology needed to contribute to further KAAN development?

None of the countries that have expressed their interest in the KAAN can contribute to the development of the Burfis AESA radar, the TF-35000 engine, or any critical part of the fighter jet that Turkey is still developing. Being a partner does not necessarily mean that they will be developing the fighter jet since Turkey has already reached many critical, and successful steps towards the journey of reaching mass production. The Tier 1-2-3 of the F-35 program can give you a glimpse of what a partner could be considered in terms of the technology transfer.


Check this out

Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II procurement - Wikipedia

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[Yasar_TR]

It's not the first time Indonesia has been linked to the KAAN. It will be healthy for Turkiye to get partners on board the KAAN program. The critical stages of the project have been accomplished, or are near completion. However, as we know the leverage and the offers that Turkiye made at the beginning of the program are not available today. Hopefully, there are still opportunities that can be discussed and offered just like the F-35 program. Do we know what South Korea offered to Indonesia as a participant in the KF-21 program?


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The project was initially designed with Indonesia funding 20 percent of the 8.1 trillion won total cost, in exchange for technology transfer and participation in the production process.
As a result of the reduced financial contribution of Indonesia, the benefits Indonesia will receive, including technology transfer, will be scaled down proportionally.
However, specific details on the reduction in technology transfer have not been disclosed.