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[Anmdt]

When Musk is talking about drones instead of F-35's, he's not talking about quadcopters and stuff. He's talking about this:

So, mock him at your own peril.

Yeah but that's beyond 2050, maybe even more.

Can you assure us that there won't be any wars or conflicts that we may need a manned system and or if happens to be, can be resolved entirely by missiles and unmanned systems until the time comes?

If so i willingly support halting the entire of manned projects.

Do we have end to end secure (not talking about an encrypted network, but security of whole chain) communications solutions at the moment to get the same work done via remotely piloted / controlled drones?

From today to ten years ahead most of the unmanned platforms will serve as front line units, KE, Anka III won't be much than a system that delivers a payload at dedicated targets. Or provides a quick look at the targets prior to attack.

Developing manned platforms shouldn't be redundant or negligible. The process itself heavily supports the core technologies that unmanned platforms need in future, they can coexist for a smooth transition.

Which of the manned platform development program focuses so much on the pilot factor and got delayed because of that? It is often related to engines, stealth techs, radars, signal processors and so on.

 

[Shtr]

He has shared some his thoughts. It was swarm of drones and not this concept I guess.

 

[Sanchez]

KE, Anka III won't be much than a system that delivers a payload at dedicated targets. Or provides a quick look at the targets prior to attack

I don't think most people understand this. Tech is simply not there yet.

 

[boredaf]

I don't think most people understand this. Tech is simply not there yet.

It's the bloody word "AI", people see it and think of Skynet when in reality things that are labelled as AI right now has no real intelligence to them at all. It's just a buzzword that people keep falling for.

 

[Anmdt]

I don't think most people understand this. Tech is simply not there yet.

I am not much of a computer science guy but i have seen people struggling with a single GPU (expensive one) on a sea platform (something tiny, unmanned, remote controlled) trying to implement some well known image processing tool on the go with a low-frame per second (1 and even less). The boat was merely making less than 10 knots, and had only 3 cameras to process (360 degrees). It had troubles, on a 2D domain that in can move, and on a 2D space it needs to process.

When i combine all the sensors on a fighter jet and thinking ways to "process it" and "reason it", that even overwhelms me.

Yes the future is there and i don't think anyone denies the fact that it is, but i can relate this to 80s-90s where remotely piloted UAVs were a big thing and nowadays even kids can get one and play with those, in a similar manner those "AI" enabled fighters will be used by some superpowers in the next decade but past-2050 those technologies will be commercialized or enabled by 3rd parties and just as happened with TB2 (and the drones in the same class, where almost ever nation in G20 has such a program to develop one, or already operates an indigenous one), better if we start now and adjust to that.

Dreams are meant to be sold but it is like the "mushrooms", it poisons some minds and then they begin to parrot "yeah manned platforms are junk".

 

[Heartbang]

Yeah but that's beyond 2050, maybe even more.

Can you assure us that there won't be any wars or conflicts that we may need a manned system and or if happens to be, can be resolved entirely by missiles and unmanned systems until the time comes?

If so i willingly support halting the entire of manned projects.

Do we have end to end secure (not talking about an encrypted network, but security of whole chain) communications solutions at the moment to get the same work done via remotely piloted / controlled drones?

From today to ten years ahead most of the unmanned platforms will serve as front line units, KE, Anka III won't be much than a system that delivers a payload at dedicated targets. Or provides a quick look at the targets prior to attack.

Developing manned platforms shouldn't be redundant or negligible. The process itself heavily supports the core technologies that unmanned platforms need in future, they can coexist for a smooth transition.

Which of the manned platform development program focuses so much on the pilot factor and got delayed because of that? It is often related to engines, stealth techs, radars, signal processors and so on.

I do concur with all the points you've mentioned, apart from one thing:

I don't think it'll take that many years for this tech to mature. And there are people in the Pentagon CoC who are on the same page as me. They often mention the development pace of the AI tech has triggered a reorganization effort in the NGAD project.

And when one does remember that Elon Musk has this doohickey called "Starlink" at hand that has proved itself in the battlefield already. A tech he stated many times that he's willing to militarize for the right price.

Suddenly, Elon screeching against F-35's make a lot more sense.

 

[uçuyorum]

I am not much of a computer science guy but i have seen people struggling with a single GPU (expensive one) on a sea platform (something tiny, unmanned, remote controlled) trying to implement some well known image processing tool on the go with a low-frame per second (1 and even less). The boat was merely making less than 10 knots, and had only 3 cameras to process (360 degrees). It had troubles, on a 2D domain that in can move, and on a 2D space it needs to process.

When i combine all the sensors on a fighter jet and thinking ways to "process it" and "reason it", that even overwhelms me.

Yes the future is there and i don't think anyone denies the fact that it is, but i can relate this to 80s-90s where remotely piloted UAVs were a big thing and nowadays even kids can get one and play with those, in a similar manner those "AI" enabled fighters will be used by some superpowers in the next decade but past-2050 those technologies will be commercialized or enabled by 3rd parties and just as happened with TB2 (and the drones in the same class, where almost ever nation in G20 has such a program to develop one, or already operates an indigenous one), better if we start now and adjust to that.

Dreams are meant to be sold but it is like the "mushrooms", it poisons some minds and then they begin to parrot "yeah manned platforms are junk".

Sounds like a skill issue on that guy.

 

[Anmdt]

I do concur with all the points you've mentioned, apart from one thing:

I don't think it'll take that many years for this tech to mature. And there are people in the Pentagon CoC who are on the same page as me. They often mention the development pace of the AI tech has triggered a reorganization effort in the NGAD project.

And when one does remember that Elon Musk has this doohickey called "Starlink" at hand that has proved itself in the battlefield already. A tech he stated many times that he's willing to militarize for the right price.

Suddenly, Elon screeching against F-35's make a lot more sense.

That's my point,

Do we have starlink or any low latency, secure and multiple satellite (redundant scheme) enabled communication tool?

If we have it in the next decade do we have resources to defend it in space domain, or cyber domain or EW domain? If my answer is no to any of those, i won't rely on that network for combat, but we may get a yes if we start from now.