TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

[YeşilVatan]

one question,
if F35 is that much stealth, why they dont use it in Yemen? 10th UAV has been down just recently

Could be a hundred various reasons other than F-35 stealth capability being a scam.

 

[I_Love_F16]

If all S-400 systems are active, they can cover whole country. No escape zone for F-35. Another option would be North Cyprus.

Not how it works … An F-35 has to be pretty close for the S-400 to shot it down.

 

[Strong AI]

Sources from the Ministry of National Defense responded to claims made by a Greek newspaper regarding the “S-400s being kept under U.S. control at Incirlik in exchange for re-inclusion in the F-35 program.” The ministry sources stated:

“Regarding this matter, it is important not to give credence to news aimed at shaping perceptions by third countries and to approach it with caution. Currently, there is no change in the positions of either country regarding the S-400 and F-35.

We have always stated that it is not right for allies to impose restrictions or sanctions on each other, as it goes against the spirit of alliance. Our expectation is that our allies will make decisions in line with the spirit of the alliance and the common security perspective, and lift all restrictions, whether overt or covert.”

S-400'lerle ilgili İncirlik iddiasına Milli Savunma Bakanlığı'ndan yanıt

Haber 7 - Milli Savunma Bakanlığı kaynakları, bir Yunan gazetesinin “F-35 programına tekrar dahil edilme karşılığında S-400’lerin İncirlik’te ABD kontrolünde bulundurulacağına” ilişkin iddialara cevap verdi.

www.haber7.com

 

[Spitfire9]

How many F-35 were built for Turkiye but not delivered?

 

[hugh]

US State Department: “The conditions for supplying F-35s to Turkey are widely known and our policy has not changed. Turkey’s continued interoperability with NATO remains a critical US priority.”

-VoA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862014941550559554

Someone is lying.

 

[Blackeyes90]

US State Department: “The conditions for supplying F-35s to Turkey are widely known and our policy has not changed. Turkey’s continued interoperability with NATO remains a critical US priority.”

-VoA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862014941550559554

Someone is lying.

Yaşar Güler made a another blunder i think. He doesnt strike me as a Well spoken politician.

 

[TheInsider]

It is so sad to see our defense minister lying blatantly.

 

[hugh]

It is so sad to see our defense minister lying blatantly.

Maybe we're actually following the US's receipt and get rid of the S400. But this cannot be fed to the public as it is and they resorted to telling "Americans saw KAAN's progress and decided to sell us F35". As childish as this sounds, AKP supporters would easily buy it.

Otherwise, why would they send a formal request to buy F35 if they knew the US would reject it? Things don't add up.

 

[Blackeyes90]

Maybe we're actually following the US's receipt and get rid of the S400. But this cannot be fed to the public as it is and they resorted to telling "Americans saw KAAN's progress and decided to sell us F35". As childish as this sounds, AKP supporters would easily buy it.

Otherwise, why would they send a formal request to buy F35 if they knew the US would reject it? Things don't add up.

Did we send a formal request ? I dont think so. There is talks about it but sending a formal request to buy f 35 without lifting the santions doesnt seem smart to me.

 

[Huelague]

It is so sad to see our defense minister lying blatantly.

Because US politician would never lie.

 

[TheInsider]

Because US politician would never lie.

It has nothing to do with the US politicians there is a law in effect regarding the F-35s. It is passed by the Congress there is no one in the US including the president that can deliver F-35s to us. Only the Congress can repeal the law.

 

[Huelague]

It has nothing to do with the US politicians there is a law in effect regarding the F-35s. It is passed by the Congress there is no one in the US including the president that can deliver F-35s to us. Only the Congress can repeal the law.

Thats not the point. Congress and Senate are ruled by Republicans (D. Trump). Y. Guller must found out, that Congress is willing to send the F-35 to us.

 

[TheInsider]

Thats not the point. Congress and Senate are ruled by Republicans (D. Trump). Y. Guller must found out, that Congress is willing to send the F-35 to us.

Until we see a serious move, it is pure speculation. And I really doubt Congress will be friendly to us. Especially while Israel is openly hostile to us.

 

[Hannibal]

All that hocus pocus about the S-400 and F-35 stealth being compromised.

India to receive billions in US weapons, including F-35 stealth jets: Trump

India's Prime Minister Modi and US President Trump agreed on a security agenda that will also address 'terrorism'.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[guest12]

All that hocus pocus about the S-400 and F-35 stealth being compromised.

India to receive billions in US weapons, including F-35 stealth jets: Trump

India's Prime Minister Modi and US President Trump agreed on a security agenda that will also address 'terrorism'.

www.aljazeera.com

All accounts claimed S-400 was reason completly silent of course.

 

[Bilge adam reis]

Yaşar Güler made a another blunder i think. He doesnt strike me as a Well spoken politician.

Yaşar güler is the guy who was saying "our president said israel is enemy our president is very smart" shit like that do you think guy like this who also lied about F35 being a bad jet etc is a good guy??? all of those guys are in the strings of erdogan nothing much nothing less

 

[IC3M@N FX]

What are you crying about? What's the point of an F-35 that requires satellite-based US launch codes or allows remote access from the USA? Either the planes don't take off at all or the weapons systems are deactivated in the event of an escalation in an extreme situation, e.g. against Israel or Greece.

ALIS (Automatic Logistics Information System) and its successor ODIN (Operation Data Integrated Network) & Co.
These systems run exclusively on US military servers on the F-35, no country has access to them and without this access the F-35 is useless as a system. Not to mention that you can't even switch off Link 16 & Co for national missions.

This thing is a Trojan horse - get over it.
For this reason, the Israelis have also heavily modified their F-35s, while the USA probably has no access to them at all.

The only thing that makes me angry is the argumentation of the USA to block the F-35 for security reasons because of the S-400.
In India, the US doesn't seem to mind, yet another reason to completely avoid US weapons systems after the F-16 Block 70 Deal.

 

[Saithan]

Too much pussy whining. Stop crying over spilt milk. Our politicians were too dumb to bide their time and blew it. Move on EF and let's see if KAAN is going to fly

 

[Bilge adam reis]

What are you crying about? What's the point of an F-35 that requires satellite-based US launch codes or allows remote access from the USA? Either the planes don't take off at all or the weapons systems are deactivated in the event of an escalation in an extreme situation, e.g. against Israel or Greece.

ALIS (Automatic Logistics Information System) and its successor ODIN (Operation Data Integrated Network) & Co.
These systems run exclusively on US military servers on the F-35, no country has access to them and without this access the F-35 is useless as a system. Not to mention that you can't even switch off Link 16 & Co for national missions.

This thing is a Trojan horse - get over it.
For this reason, the Israelis have also heavily modified their F-35s, while the USA probably has no access to them at all.

The only thing that makes me angry is the argumentation of the USA to block the F-35 for security reasons because of the S-400.
In India, the US doesn't seem to mind, yet another reason to completely avoid US weapons systems after the F-16 Block 70 Deal.

Those launch codes are the ones you put on your F16s everyday, LINK 16 codes you don't even know what are you talking about.

You paranoid fellas saying the same stuff during 1980s as well "OH NO US IS GOING LOCK OUR F16's " we are just too arrogant to accept our islamist goverment fucked up and lots of Turkish companies lost money also, we have no air superiority over greece nor israel.

The koreans already debunked your so called "satellite codes" claims.

 

[Bilge adam reis]

Could be a hundred various reasons other than F-35 stealth capability being a scam.

Why should you use a stealth jet to bomb desert dwellers?