TR TFX Name Suggestion Dıscussions

[UkroTurk]

İnstead of Istikbal , call it Istiqlal.

 

[Heartbang]

İnstead of Istikbal , call it Istiqlal.

"Who hath summoned me?!"

 

[Ryder]

"Who hath summoned me?!"

14.5MM

God I will never want to be shot with that rifle.

That bullet will easily split a man in half.

 

[Sanchez]

14.5MM

God I will never want to be shot with that rifle.

That bullet will easily split a man in half.

and the front of the vehicle you're riding, and the engine, and the dashboard, and the driver.

 

[Rodeo]

IMO, if the name was chosen be something exotic or marginal, it won't add much to the aircraft's aura. But if the name won't work out, it will constantly be ridiculed and be subject to defamation. There's no point in taking risk by being unorthodox. Naming it after a local predatory bird is the most risk-free option.

 

[Ripley]

Hürdoğan

Other than the pronunciation difficulties I like this better.
And it defines the odyssey of Turkish aviation industry, MMU in particular.
English translation sounds nice, too. Born Free!

 

[dBSPL]

Gökbörü(skywolf) was the best, or other mythological names like Kızagan(war god). I don't care how hard it is to pronounce. As if we can pronounce all French and English words correctly.

İstikbal is not a Turkish word. If it refers to Ataturk's maxim, I think there is a logic error again. Ataturk said future is in the sky, he was not defining what is in the sky. What will be in the skies will be the Turkish hard power.

 

[Baryshx]

They were going to call it Kartal. They would name it in Turkish, it is easy for foreigners to pronounce.

 

[dBSPL]

Birds of prey actively maintaining(or known as) their natural habitats in the Turkish geography

Sakallı Akbaba/ Karakuş - Lammergeier/Bearded Vulture
Arı Şahini - Pernis
Kızıl Akbaba - Eurasian griffon vulture
Kara Akbaba - Black/Cinereous vulture
Yılan Kartalı - Short-toed eagle
Bozkır Kartalı - Steppe eagle
Şah Kartal - Eastern imperial eagle
Kaya Kartalı - Golden eagle
Atmaca taken
Çakır - Northern goshawk
Saz Delicesi - Red harrier
Bozkır Delicesi - Pallid harrier
Çayır Delicesi - Montagu's harrier
Kara Çaylak - Black kite
Ak Kuyruklu Kartal - White-tailed eagle
Kızıl Şahin - Long-legged buzzard
Şahin - Buteo
Kerkenez - Kestrel
Ala Doğan - Red-footed falcon
Ada Doğanı - Island/Eleonora's falcon
Delice Doğan - Eurasian hobby
Bıyıklı Doğan - Lanner falcon
Ulu Doğan - Saker falcon
Gökdoğan taken

 

[Blackeyes90]

Birds of prey actively maintaining their natural habitats in the Turkish geography

Sakallı Akbaba/ Karakuş - Lammergeier/Bearded Vulture
Arı Şahini - Pernis
Kızıl Akbaba - Eurasian griffon vulture
Kara Akbaba - Black/Cinereous vulture
Yılan Kartalı - Short-toed eagle
Bozkır Kartalı - Steppe eagle
Şah Kartal - Eastern imperial eagle
Kaya Kartalı - Golden eagle
Atmaca taken
Çakır - Northern goshawk
Saz Delicesi - Red harrier
Bozkır Delicesi - Pallid harrier
Çayır Delicesi - Montagu's harrier
Kara Çaylak - Black kite
Ak Kuyruklu Kartal - White-tailed eagle
Kızıl Şahin - Long-legged buzzard
Şahin - Buteo
Kerkenez - Kestrel
Ala Doğan - Red-footed falcon
Ada Doğanı - Island/Eleonora's falcon
Delice Doğan - Eurasian hobby
Bıyıklı Doğan - Lanner falcon
Ulu Doğan - Saker falcon
Gökdoğan taken

Bıyıklı Doğan - Lanner falcon is good for me

 

[YeşilVatan]

Bıyıklı Doğan - Lanner falcon is good for me

Imagine the paintjob opportunities!

 

[dBSPL]

Karakuş' (bearded vulture or lammergeier) natural habitat: Central Asia and East Africa and some part of europe. These unusual birds have no interest in typical flesh, instead making a diet of bones. They have one of the widest wingspans of any bird of prey living today. The wingspan of an adult bird reaches 2.8 metres. They are rare and their species is protected. In Europe and some other countries it is believed to take livestock and small children. Their appearance is not very similar to other Vulture species. However, they are among the old world vultures.

 

[Ripley]

I think we need to revisit the moniker issue.
I had posted about it a while back then.

F= Fighter ==> Savaşçı (TR literal tranlatio)
F= Avcı (TurAF designation) Its usage is almost identical to “Jagd” by Germans, meaning “Hunter”

B= Bomber ==> Bombacı (TR literal translation)
B= Bombardıman (TurAF designation) quite self-explanatory here.

A= Attack ==> Saldırı (TR literal translation)
A= “ ==> Taaruz (Arabic tranlation) When Turkish Air Force was formed as a new born service within the Ottoman Army, any “attack” mission was designated as “taaruz” from Arabic, not “Saldırı” as in modern Turkish language.

The list goes on, ”T”, “X” and so on. But won’t go that far.

TurAF has derived its customs from naval traditions from day one like every other Air Force and as a result just like their naval counterparts they observe those traditions passionately. Any personnel within Turkish Air Force using “savaşçı“ or “bombacı” instead of “avcı” and “bombardıman“ respectively, would probably get a slap on the wrist, if not demoted.

Please let’s not sacrifice a century old grass root traditions to poor Turkish language skills of self appointed social media “experts”

Also, the ”T” prefix denoting to its country of origin, hence TF, TB, TA or TT.
Why?
Do we really have to emphasize the ‘Turkishness’ (horrible word, sorry) of the aircraft?
These sophisticated platforms, mathematically thinking, will only have around 200 possible customers around the world. Any possible customer among those will be on the market knowing what they are shopping for at first place.
These are not kitchen gadgets for mass production/consumption.

Stick to our Western block heritage and go with F, B and so on without sacrificing our century old AVCI and BOMBARDIMAN designations.
OR
Do what the British and French did! Skip the hassle and go with names. Simple.

 

[demir283]

Proto Turkic ( Oghur) common Turkic (Oghuz)

Og(arrow) Uz (clans) .
Old Turkish custom, the arrow, was a symbol of unification and power.
iron, one of Turks oldest known substances Temurjin name comes from Turkic word iron smith. Even Chinese annals, Turks were nicknamed Blacksmiths.


Temirok : would be very good name for tfx

 

[CAN_TR]

Just call it TULPAR ffs. It sounds nice, is of Turk origin and not tongue twister for foreigners.

Ak Kuyruklu Kartal, Sahin veya Delice Dogan ne dostum yaaa.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

What do these words sound like in Turkish?:

Avenger
Devastator
Dauntless

i.e rather than objects/animals/deities etc.... a direct action concept

(Yes I'm a big pacific war nerd too hehe )

Avenger = Öcalan so that'sd a no go...

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Only redeeming thing about "Istikbal" is that it's from the famous visionary quote from Atatürk "istikbsl göklerdedir"
It's understandable because Ottoman words were widely used at that time, although it was Atatürk huimself who initiated "reTurkifying" the language.

 

[demir283]

ITS KAAN

 

[Sanchez]

Safe to say, no one saw that coming.

 

[Afif]

Safe to say, no one saw that coming.

What's the meaning?