(TUSAS F-16 modernization)
A big step in localization of avionics system and mission computer
The F-16 Block was implemented in the 30s. Two successful prototypes were released. It will be applied to Block 30 first and then to 40-50s
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Turkiye wants to buy +900 missiles, +800 bombs, 40 F-16 Block 70s and 80 modernization kits from the US with a total value of $20 billion. According to a report by the US Congress, Turkiye has fulfilled the requirements for the F-16 purchase.
Here is the detailed news:
https://www.defensehere.com/tr/abd-kongresi-raporuna-gore-turkiye-f-16-icin-sartlari-yerine-getirdi
Menendez is still crying, but many other senile congressmen seem to have softened their rhetorics esp after Finland joined NATO. The Report places particular emphasis on our support for Ukraine and our stance on the straits regime, referring to their critical importance. And also, 20 billion dollars is a huge military purchase. Turkish MoD is a military buyer that cannot be ignored no matter what.
Why the missiles and bombs though? Turkiye can already produce any type of missile and bomb that the US produces.Turkiye wants to buy +900 missiles, +800 bombs, 40 F-16 Block 70s and 80 modernization kits from the US with a total value of $20 billion. According to a report by the US Congress, Turkiye has fulfilled the requirements for the F-16 purchase.
Here is the detailed news:
https://www.defensehere.com/tr/abd-kongresi-raporuna-gore-turkiye-f-16-icin-sartlari-yerine-getirdi
Menendez is still crying, but many other senile congressmen seem to have softened their rhetorics esp after Finland joined NATO. The Report places particular emphasis on our support for Ukraine and our stance on the straits regime, referring to their critical importance. And also, 20 billion dollars is a huge military purchase. Turkish MoD is a military buyer that cannot be ignored no matter what.
Probably not in large quantities quickly yet I think, also Block 70 has new computers and software, might not be possible to integrate our munitions to them at all.Why the missiles and bombs though? Turkiye can already produce any type of missile and bomb that the US produces.
In our preferred scenario, not many jobs as both modernization of existing frames and building of the new frames would be done by TAI.The republicans also want this to go through from what I can gather. All the production+jobs of this stuff is in valuable swing or retain districts for GOP.
Which we won't be able to use on Block 70s. Only US made unless we pay for them to certify those.Why the missiles and bombs though? Turkiye can already produce any type of missile and bomb that the US produces.
Because we are not buying bombs, we are buying influence. At least I think so...Why the missiles and bombs though? Turkiye can already produce any type of missile and bomb that the US produces.
Most expensive Block 70 F16 costs around 60 million dollars a piece. But the price of the plane varies according to the variant being bought and the “country” buying it.Turkiye wants to buy +900 missiles, +800 bombs, 40 F-16 Block 70s and 80 modernization kits from the US with a total value of $20 billion. According to a report by the US Congress, Turkiye has fulfilled the requirements for the F-16 purchase.
Here is the detailed news:
https://www.defensehere.com/tr/abd-kongresi-raporuna-gore-turkiye-f-16-icin-sartlari-yerine-getirdi
Menendez is still crying, but many other senile congressmen seem to have softened their rhetorics esp after Finland joined NATO. The Report places particular emphasis on our support for Ukraine and our stance on the straits regime, referring to their critical importance. And also, 20 billion dollars is a huge military purchase. Turkish MoD is a military buyer that cannot be ignored no matter what.
I cited the source, the reason why I dont shared the direct tweet is the second part, which is completely wrong and contains incomplete information.
Most expensive Block 70 F16 costs around 60 million dollars a piece. But the price of the plane varies according to the variant being bought and the “country” buying it.
Amraam aim 120D costs 1.1 million dollars
JSOW costs 720 thousand dollars
JDAM kits cost 40thousand dollars
Aim 9X costs 470thousand dollars.
Greece is paying 2,4 billion dollars for 84 V70 kits.
The math doesn’t work out when you add up all the bombs and missiles plus the planes with the kits. That 20 billion dollar figure can not be justified.
A course calculation :
2.4 billion for kits
2.4 billion for 40 planes
1-1.5 billion for various bombs and missiles (900 missiles and 800 bombs)
Total cost is around 6 billion dollars. This is before we negotiate to manufacture the planes and the engines in house.
Can someone explain how this 20 billion dollar figure is reached?
I cited the source, the reason why I dont shared the direct tweet is the second part, which is completely wrong and contains incomplete information.
Personally, I would prefer a deal like this rather than just buying F-16s from US as this opens more possibilities for us, this would be give us more bang for our buck down the road. That is of course, if we get help and guarantees (in written form) that there'll be no interference in deliveries or anything else from UK. Also, it'd be amazing if we could build our own Eurofighters instead of waiting for them.The main scope of the UK-TR delegation talks on industrial cooperations:
(via Andrew Hopkins, Diplomatic Correspondent of TRTWorld)
- Eurofighter Typhoon acquisition and integration of Turkish systems on this platform,
- Joint development of military-grade aviation engines,
- SMR Construction and creation of SMR industry in TR,
- Development of cooperation in aviation programs, especially visible over MMU.
Regarding EF, there seems to be no problem with BAE and Lonardo. We can also put Spain in this group. It should be the responsibility of the other three partner countries, especially the UK, to overcome the German barrier.
Most expensive Block 70 F16 costs around 60 million dollars a piece. But the price of the plane varies according to the variant being bought and the “country” buying it.
Amraam aim 120D costs 1.1 million dollars
JSOW costs 720 thousand dollars
JDAM kits cost 40thousand dollars
Aim 9X costs 470thousand dollars.
Greece is paying 2,4 billion dollars for 84 V70 kits.
The math doesn’t work out when you add up all the bombs and missiles plus the planes with the kits. That 20 billion dollar figure can not be justified.
A coarse calculation :
2.4 billion for kits
2.4 billion for 40 planes
1-1.5 billion for various bombs and missiles (900 missiles and 800 bombs)
Total cost is around 6 billion dollars. This is before we negotiate to manufacture the planes and the engines in house.
Can someone explain how this 20 billion dollar figure is reached?
UK isn't the problematic one here. Nor Italy or Spain. Germany is.Personally, I would prefer a deal like this rather than just buying F-16s from US as this opens more possibilities for us, this would be give us more bang for our buck down the road. That is of course, if we get help and guarantees (in written form) that there'll be no interference in deliveries or anything else from UK. Also, it'd be amazing if we could build our own Eurofighters instead of waiting for them.
I think you misunderstood me, I wasn't saying we would need guarantees about the UK, I was saying we would need guarantees from the UK about other participants in the Eurofighter project won't be a problem for us, now or in the future.UK isn't the problematic one here. Nor Italy or Spain. Germany is.