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[Strong AI]

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Have we discussed this in any thread, I looked a bit but I couldn't find it? The reflex of SoloTurk's pilot is almost superhuman. At that angle and proximity, with the flight control computer malfunctioning, it was a great skill to prevent the accident. Aircraft narrowly saved from crashing in the middle of the crowd. Yesterday was a day of strange and disgusting events. Fortunately, there was no more tragedy in this strange day. I really wonder what the investigations will reveal.

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[Chocopie]

Could be wrong, but it looks like a reckless and risky pilot maneuver to me 🫣 could have been a catastrophe for the visitors.

 

[Sanchez]

F-16B30 used by Solotürk are old aircraft we've been using for close to 35 years now. And Solotürk is out there, flying for the crowds every day, so I don't really think this would be a case of maintenance gone wrong. Air force needs to look at the squadron, its structure and maybe enact come changes to how the shows are planned and flown.

 

[Yasar_TR]

F-16B30 used by Solotürk are old aircraft we've been using for close to 35 years now. And Solotürk is out there, flying for the crowds every day, so I don't really think this would be a case of maintenance gone wrong. Air force needs to look at the squadron, its structure and maybe enact come changes to how the shows are planned and flown.

In early August, I watched live, Typhoon performing even lower manoeuvres. But it was at least 100m away from the crowd and on sea. Few years ago a plane in UK crashed in to ground killing people on the ground as it was performing a loop. Since then very strict rules have been placed in air shows.

Turkish Block 30 planes have undergone constructional upgrades to extend their life. They are the most manoeuvrable and agile f16s there are.

It does look like the pilot took few risks during flight. That should not have happened.

 

[Cenkcnk]

do you know the situation with the viper? Order placed? Or are we waiting for some approvals?

 

[Sanchez]

Order placed?

Nope.

Or are we waiting for some approvals?

Contract negotiations.

 

[Zoth]

do you know the situation with the viper? Order placed? Or are we waiting for some approvals?

Nope.


Contract negotiations.

The reason why the contract hasn't been signed yet is kind of complicated, Turkey wants to build the new Vipers domestically and also modernize the current ones domestically, it also wants to build F16 engines domestically too, which is why the deal has not been made.

I doubt that USA will allow anything to be domestically build in Turkey if CAATSA is not lifted, which we go back to our original issue, S400. USA wants those to either be sent to Ukraine or stored in American side of Incirlik Air Base, which Turkey won't allow due to complicated relations with Russia, we need their Gas and we are currently tied to them in Nuclear Energy.

 

[Sanchez]

The reason why the contract hasn't been signed yet is kind of complicated, Turkey wants to build the new Vipers domestically and also modernize the current ones domestically, it also wants to build F16 engines domestically too, which is why the deal has not been made.

This is an unsubstantiated claim from some, while it is possibly true, we can't be certain. In the latest TurDef article there was another claim that US was looking unfavorably to transfer of AIM-120C8 and SABR radars. This is also unsubstantiated for now.

 

[Zoth]

This is an unsubstantiated claim from some, while it is possibly true, we can't be certain. In the latest TurDef article there was another claim that US was looking unfavorably to transfer of AIM-120C8 and SABR radars. This is also unsubstantiated for now.

You are right, but there is always some trueness to those rumors, they don't get into surface out of nowhere.

What is for sure is that Turkey is in need of multiple jet engines and modernization of it's Air Forces, i don't think that USA will fully block this request but some sort of middle ground will be found.

 

[uçuyorum]

We don't have the upper hand and timing is critical right now, I think pushing our luck too much with the F16 deal is not a strategically sound move.