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What does it mean? For instance, they won't supply F16s? Either they won't sell ESSMs?
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What does it mean? For instance, they won't supply F16s? Either they won't sell ESSMs?
No, not just yet. But I guess we will be saving some money going forward as we won't be buying American anymore.What does it mean? For instance, they won't supply F16s? Either they won't sell ESSMs?
Turkey actually postponed delivery of F35 because of some tech issues, in the meantime Israel got the F35A, and decided to lobby against Turkey getting F35.If Turkey had somehow comprimised with technology transfer (until HISAR project develops), then right now Turkey would hold Patriots + F35 (of which the B variant that is compatible with TCG Anadolu).
Oh, I wasn't aware of that. Not sure why there's such hatred against Turkey from Israel, yes Erdoğan openly remarks about the Palestinian struggle but its largerly political talk. As long as you are not Iran's side then I don't see why Isreal would really lobby against you. Even now its mostly postive talk e.g. ongoing talks about maritime borders.Turkey actually postponed delivery of F35 because of some tech issues, in the meantime Israel got the F35A, and decided to lobby against Turkey getting F35.
ppl can correct me if I’m wrong.
1-Nothing critical really fuselage and equal stuff.Could someone help clarify?
Am I missing something? Why would Turkey choose to purchase a system that was bound to cause sanctions? Yes, it has the best theorectical performance/range, but was the high likelihood of being removed from the F35 project worth it?
- So Turkey had a significant role in producing the F35 and was promised early acquirement.
- Turkey wished to purchase a long range AA system of which the (Patriot, S400, Chinese FD-2000, SAMPT-T)
- Patriot systems = too expensive / lack of technology transfer, SAMPT-T = semi technology transfer, FD-2000 = EU and USA warned Turkey that it could not be integrated with NATO, S400 = partial technology transfer / best theoretical performance.
- After several years of eliminating possible options, Turkey decided on purchasing the S400 system in 2017.
The only addition I can think of is the possible consequences of downing the Russian Jet over Syria in 2015, therefore, Turkey was forced into buying weapons to prevent any Russian response.
Could someone help clarify?
Am I missing something? Why would Turkey choose to purchase a system that was bound to cause sanctions? Yes, it has the best theorectical performance/range, but was the high likelihood of being removed from the F35 project worth it?
- So Turkey had a significant role in producing the F35 and was promised early acquirement.
- Turkey wished to purchase a long range AA system of which the (Patriot, S400, Chinese FD-2000, SAMPT-T)
- Patriot systems = too expensive / lack of technology transfer, SAMPT-T = semi technology transfer, FD-2000 = EU and USA warned Turkey that it could not be integrated with NATO, S400 = partial technology transfer / best theoretical performance.
- After several years of eliminating possible options, Turkey decided on purchasing the S400 system in 2017.
The only addition I can think of is the possible consequences of downing the Russian Jet over Syria in 2015, therefore, Turkey was forced into buying weapons to prevent any Russian response.
Well, it passed with super majority, so there won't be any legal grounds for Trump to veto it.
He has to sign it. I am not sure he can avoid a lawsuit if he rejects to sign it.
Pompeo imposed CAATSA however Trump rejected NDAA sanctions.No it just wont be signed by him, super majority pass by legislature does not need executive to sign off on it for it to become law.
It has happened before.
Those are our planes, we can maintain them ourselves. It’s only procurement that is affected.I am worried about TurAF. How would fight 250 F16s without AMRAAMs and Sidewinders and etc. ? Moreover maintenance of F16s how could be possible under sanctions?
Could someone help clarify?
Am I missing something? Why would Turkey choose to purchase a system that was bound to cause sanctions? Yes, it has the best theorectical performance/range, but was the high likelihood of being removed from the F35 project worth it?
- So Turkey had a significant role in producing the F35 and was promised early acquirement.
- Turkey wished to purchase a long range AA system of which the (Patriot, S400, Chinese FD-2000, SAMPT-T)
- Patriot systems = too expensive / lack of technology transfer, SAMPT-T = semi technology transfer, FD-2000 = EU and USA warned Turkey that it could not be integrated with NATO, S400 = partial technology transfer / best theoretical performance.
- After several years of eliminating possible options, Turkey decided on purchasing the S400 system in 2017.
The only addition I can think of is the possible consequences of downing the Russian Jet over Syria in 2015, therefore, Turkey was forced into buying weapons to prevent any Russian response.
I was kinda hoping we’d get nukes before we left NATO.Expect Turkish-American relations to worsen under the Biden administration. Probably even tougher sanctions.