TR Turkish Missile & Smart Munition Programs

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Not really HAR-66 can take out any IFV or APC russians got in their hands.
Actually I remember an article of a former US soldier who said that M72 LAW rockets are really underpowered. He said that they were struggling to stop (not destroy) a BTR-60.
 

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Actually I remember an article of a former US soldier who said that M72 LAW rockets are really underpowered. He said that they were struggling to stop (not destroy) a BTR-60.
HAR 66 is literally A3 It can penetrate any IFV or APC russians have. Our ökk members destroyed countless SVBIED vehicles with it
 

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Seahawk S70B helicopters, used in ASW and ASUW missions, that are in the inventory of Turkish navy, having come to the end of their certification programs, are being fitted with Umtas and L-Umtas missiles.
Seahawks have the capability to fire missiles like hellfire, light torpedoes and Penguin anti ship missiles. With this capability these helicopters, will for the first time, be able to use indigenously produced missiles.
How ever the above news doesn’t make it clear if it will be the newly extended range Umtas missile with a 16km range that is being integrated to these helicopters.
Use of local weapons from these helicopters will pave the way in the months to come, the use of Medium Range Anti Ship Missiles like CAKIR, Kuzgun TJ and Kuzgun KY that are being developed as well.
 

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HAR 66 is literally A3 It can penetrate any IFV or APC russians have. Our ökk members destroyed countless SVBIED vehicles with it
Penetration force and stopping force is not the same. It's a 1.8kg rocket at all. It can penetrate up to 300mm of RHA but the post penetration damage is low because of its small warhead weight. Damage reduces as targets armor thickness increase. SVBIED's have no armor or very little armor at most cases that's why its enough for them.
 

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The Ramjet-powered Akbaba anti-radiation missile has started firing tests. The ramjet engine is said to be developed by Roketsan.


AKBABA National Anti-Radiation Missile will have both passive (wideband, a kind of EDT sensor) and active RF Seeker (which will operate in a different frequency band than the existing RF heads, again mechanically directed, not AESA type).

In the Aselsan 2020 Annual Report, it was stated that the Radar Seekers were successfully operating within the scope of the live-fire tests of the missiles and that the Radar (RF) Seeker Heads for surface cruise, air defense, air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles were successfully carried out.

 

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If it is Roketsan’s ramjet, then it is solid fuelled ramjet engine being used in these missiles for propulsion.
This should be similar to the engine being used in Meteor; May be without throttle control. However if it should have throttle control it would give very long ranges to the missile.
Tubitak-Sage’s Ramjet is liquid (gel) based. This will be the propulsion for Gökhan air to air missile.
 

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On maybe related news, Boeing & Nammo have successfully tested its ramjet powered artillery projectile.

This was tested earlier this year. I remember reading about it. Up to 150 km range. But it is a very expensive method to increase range. There is already guided rounds like Excalibur in esoteric price levels. Who knows what these will cost. Also the amount of explosive it can carry will be greatly reduced due to engine, fuel etc.
As Turkey we have our TRG/TRLG-300 missiles that can carry 90-105 kg of explosives to similar ranges and with accuracy, probably at similar cost.
Nevertheless the technology is there and it is possible to shoot targets 150km away very accurately with these rounds.
 

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I was thinking the same, must be very expensive. I personally prefer a good bang to buck ratio over overengineered shells that cost 1m € per piece. Excalibur is already supposed to cost 100k Dollars per shell.
 

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live-fire tests
Disclaimer; Does not necessarily mean a live-fire test with ramjet propulsion. Possibly tested via a sample missile derived in form of HARM with rocket propulsion.
Also wondering when TAF will demand AESA based seeker on the missiles and Aselsan will begin the development? Might be useful with these kind of high-value asset targeting missiles.
 

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Now that liquid and solid fuel Ramjets are in testing phase, we can say that our product range will be as follows;

-Ramjet BVR Gokhan
-Ramjet Ground based SAM based on Gökhan
-Ramjet Anti-radiation Akbaba
-Ramjet Shore/Ship based Anti-Ship missile
-Ramjet Air Launched Anti-Ship and Land attack missile
 
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