Okay, thank you both for your answers. I was actually not trying to argue with you. I just wanted to show the people who read this place what kind of people are the AKP supporters, what kind moral and ethic codes they have. How they want to normalize dirty relations and bribery under the cover of Islam.
What İsmail Demir did, was a crime according our laws.
He will take jail time for this crime.
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There are a lot of conservative and liberal AKP voters who don't like the coalition with nationalists. I find DEVA has potential.MHP votes go down the drain and AKP will probably again start cuddling with HDP, like in the good old times.
My guess about DEVA was that it would end up like SAADET/GELECEK somewhere in the 1-2%, but ffs they could surpass MHP.
I cant believe that the time when a top mafia leader who escaped to the UAE says "If you believe in my experience and sincerity" to the ppl and the ppl believe it as if he is some sort of a national hero.Gunman who attacked HDP office detained in Turkey's Izmir
A person was detained after attacking a pro-PKK Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) provincial office in western Turkey's Izmir province, June 17, 2021. (AA Photo)
BY DAILY SABAH
JUN 17, 2021 12:21 PM
Aperson was detained after attacking a pro-PKK Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) provincial office in western Turkey's Izmir province on Thursday and killing one person.
The attacker entered the building with a gun and proceeded to fire rounds from the window toward the street.
After an operation conducted by a police team, the attacker was caught and detained.
According to a later statement by the HDP, the attacker set the building on fire and an HDP official was killed.
My dear friends, unfortunately, we will experience much bigger attacks then the Izmir HDP provincial chairmanship in the coming days. If you believe in my experience and sincerity, do not go out streets under any circumstances.
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Ex AKP MP and columnist:
So we weren't under crusader siege
Now we have come to the end of the story… On the one hand, we adjusted to Europe by saying "Nazis are Nazis...", and on the other hand, we found the bottom of the rhythm with statements such as "Imperialist powers are in alliance with the traitors inside to stop Turkey's growth", pointing to the United States.
And now, seeing the end of the story, we set off to rediscover America and Europe. The evaluations of President Tayyip Erdoğan after the bilateral meetings with Western leaders, especially Biden, on the occasion of the NATO summit in Brussels, show that Turkey is in a new search. In fact, these negotiations and evaluations are quite natural for a country that is a NATO member. This is the natural behavior of all countries within the alliance family.
Unnatural; It was his evaluation of the world in which Turkey is located as a "Crusader mentality..." I think Turkey is no longer seeing the West as an alliance that came together to destroy us…
President Erdogan's evaluations after the talks tell us this.
Describing the meeting with Biden as "extremely helpful and sincere", Erdogan said: "We see that there is a strong will to start a period of productive cooperation based on mutual respect and interest in all fields. We think that there is no unsolvable problem in Turkey-US relations, on the contrary, our areas of cooperation show a broader and richer outlook than the problem headings.”
This meeting also confirmed that Turkey is determined to strengthen relations with the United States. In fact, saying that on the way to the NATO summit that Biden would bring up the definition of 1915 as the "Armenian genocide" on April 24, Mr. Erdogan clearly demonstrated this determination by saying "Thank God it never came to the agenda" in the bilateral meeting.
Regarding his meeting with President Erdoğan Makron, he said the following: “Syria focused on whether we could do a joint study on Libya. We said we can do it. We will continue our discussions on this issue.”
Although concrete steps could not be taken regarding the PYD-PKK, S-400s and F-35s, it seems that there is a determined will to take joint steps with America and Europe.
So we were not under the siege of the Crusaders…
It means that foreign powers were not responsible for the economic crisis, the 128 billion dollars to whom it was sold, for how much, corruption, nepotism, and the bad smells emanating from the gang-mafia-politics axis...
This means that rational relations with all countries in economic and political terms can be maintained on the condition that mutual interests are taken as a basis.
No matter what anyone says, this is a strange country. I don't really know how to understand how journalists, academics and all those close to the government, who until yesterday, "we are fighting for liberation against the imperialist powers", suddenly display an Americanist image and turn into a "patty of love". They probably know something...
Do moment he caught, he said "I'm not connected to anyone or any group, i did this on my own."
Deep state if you ask me, just like Sedat Peker said.
For me it is now clearer, as he went to syria as paramedic he saw first hand what hdp ideological brothers do and probably he snaped, do not beleive in deep state conspiracy just bittered and emotiomally triģerred individual.Mess of foreign policy
He was a state paramedic or something and went to Syria a few times, met with SNA commander and Turkish soldiers. Maybe was involved with some of the militias in SNA, not much info yet. SADAT conspiracy theories floating around.
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Whoever let him hold that MPT rifle should be suspended.
He went to this Turkish base in Syria:
I also think this is deep state or something. The HDP usually have police swarming them when they step outside to make public statements, they know when these will happen as I assume they watch the buildings. How did guys with guns just walk in ? I don't know if HDP are telling the truth about cancelling their meeting that was going to take place with 40+ people that day either. But this guy killed the woman he found and tried to set fire to the building. He also expected there to be more based on his whatsapp story:
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That is supposedly the corpse of this victim that he executed, she was supposedly there alone to clean the building:
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If not deep state, this is a growing population of ultranationalists/AKP people that could commit these shootings at any time. The economy is in the shit and there are many like this guy who go to Syria for war tourism and such. Reminds of this stuff on TV, the AKP people saying they are ready to kill:
It's not healthy in society.