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[UkroTurk]

doesn't even have IWBs

What does IWB stand for?
And i hope KE has it.

 

[Radonsider]

What does IWB stand for?

internal weapon bays

 

[Hasanrize]

It's typical of the Europeans. Everything is being run like an academic research. No emphasis on hardware. No urgency. Too much bureaucracy. Too many chefs in the kitchen. They take ages to decide even on the specs of the aircraft. I'm pretty sure the project will be shelved before it makes its first flight.

The main reason is the conflict of interest. All sides want to be the main contractor and have the biggest say, also pay less, maybe This is happening in all of their projects. Indeed multinational projects are quite inefficient. Probably that was the reason the UK don't want to share much on the Tempest project after having enough lessons from Euro Fighter.

 

[Bogeyman]

Kale Group Technical President Osman Okyay implied that the Arat project is a turbofan engine that can be used in UAVs.

Milli Muharip Uçak'ın Motorunda ve KTJ Serisinde Son Durum

Kale Grubu Teknik Başkanı Osman Okyay, Milli Muharip Uçak'ın Motoru ve KTJ Serisi Turbojet Motorlar ile ilgili SavunmaSanayiST.com'un sorularını yanıtladı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

 

[Bogeyman]

Kale Group Technical President Osman Okyay implied that the Arat project is a turbofan engine that can be used in UAVs.

Milli Muharip Uçak'ın Motorunda ve KTJ Serisinde Son Durum

Kale Grubu Teknik Başkanı Osman Okyay, Milli Muharip Uçak'ın Motoru ve KTJ Serisi Turbojet Motorlar ile ilgili SavunmaSanayiST.com'un sorularını yanıtladı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

In fact, they said it was a long-lasting engine project. They say it can be used for UAVs (no emphasis on kamikaze drones!), so it should be a turbofan.

 

[Zafer]

In fact, they said it was a long-lasting engine project. They say it can be used for UAVs (no emphasis on kamikaze drones!), so it should be a turbofan.

I watched the video again, there is no mention of the word turbofan but the tone of the wording implies a better technology than just turbojet. The likelyhood of it being a turbofan is like 70% from these words.

 

[Bogeyman]

I watched the video again, there is no mention of the word turbofan but the tone of the wording implies a better technology than just turbojet. The likelyhood of it being a turbofan is like 70% from these words.

I agree one hundred percent

 

[Baryshx]

Kale Arge (Osman Okyay) had already said in previous interviews that they would enter the turbofan engine business.

Is he referring to somewhere here?

"We don't pretend to do anything we haven't done. Therefore, this is the hard way of work rather than the truth of course. But we are up to the challenge. We don't do anything for show, so the engines we develop here are actually the 'Turbojet Development Engine Project' that we signed in 2012."

 

[dBSPL]

The aim of the GEZGIN project is to develop a missile system that will cruise around 1000 km, mostly at sea level. Therefore, it is certain that the turbofan engine that will power this missile system will provide a great breakthrough and flexibility to our engine industry. The engine that will emerge will be a direct alternative to the Williams F107.

When we look at the WR19's other uses besides the tomahawk, the other thing that stands out is that it can power air-dropped and reusable UAV systems such as DARPA's Dynetics X-61 Gremlins.

Although Osman Okyay, Technical President of Kale Group, is very excited about the future projection, but cannot give concrete information about the projects under development due to the confidentiality of the projects; I think he provided very important information when describing the ARAT project. In connection with the ARAT project, there are some UAV studies.

With the ARAT project, not only like AGM-158C LRASM/JASSM-XR and Tomahawk Block IV TLAM missile systems, but also recoverable, low-cost UAVs with digital flight controls and navigation systems that can be launched from the air and land/surface have become possible.

edit: If you also develop an airborne-launcher module to be used by A400m and C-130 cargo planes, you will have a low-cost way of mass-firing dozens of systems quickly and efficiently using unmodified airlift vehicles. In recent years, US' DARPA has also significantly funded the development of systems for the recovery of these systems too, as like their disposal from cargo planes.

 

[dBSPL]

The fact that we were one of the main development partners of EADS Talarion was a topic that we had numerous discussions on past. And after that, when the TAI Göksungur project was announced for the first time in 2020, this issue came up again in different way. The Goksungur system was compared with the Talarion project.

Talarion's requirements were an altitude of 50,000 ft, a cruising speed of >500 km/h, and over 20 hours endurance in the air. In addition, a lifting capacity of up to 1.8 tons was targeted for the total payload. However, the project was shelved between 2012-14.

Excerpt from Wiki:
Partnership with Turkish Aerospace Industries-
In May 2011, a group of Turkish suppliers, led by Turkish Aerospace Industries, joined the project by signing a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with EADS Cassidian for the Talarion UAV programme.[2][6] Turkey (Turkish Aerospace Industries) has developed and successfully produced MALE UAVs of its own and has subsequently gained significant experience with the development of larger long endurance UAV platforms. A very similar Turkish project, the TAI Anka, made its debut at the 2010 Farnborough Airshow and was scheduled to enter service with the Turkish Air Force in early 2012,[7] but was eventually introduced in 2013. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EADS_Talarion

So, very briefly, the Goksungur may be a project that has been going on in some form for many years, but has not been prioritized until these years.

 

[Boz]

"2 hours with The crazy Turk Selçuk Bayraktar"

Selçuk Bayraktar ile 2 saat

Devasa bir teknoloji laboratuvarının içindeyim. Silikon vadisinde miyim, Google'ı mu geziyorum diye...

www.odatv4.com

 

[dBSPL]

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"2 hours with The crazy Turk Selçuk Bayraktar"

Selçuk Bayraktar ile 2 saat

Devasa bir teknoloji laboratuvarının içindeyim. Silikon vadisinde miyim, Google'ı mu geziyorum diye...

www.odatv4.com

Spoiler: Fergani Sky

...Who knows, the next time we meet, we might pose at the head of the rockets that will send people into space...

 

[Agha Sher]

Spoiler: Fergani Sky

...Who knows, the next time we meet, we might pose at the head of the rockets that will send people into space...

Did Selcuk really say that?

 

[Rodeo]

Did Selcuk really say that?

No. He clearly said that they are working on a "space tug". It's a vehicle for transporting satellites from transfer-orbit to their operational-orbit. I can definitively say that they're not working on a launch vehicle.

 

[dBSPL]

Did Selcuk really say that?

No. The journalist says that he listened to his projects and his vision for the future for 3 hours, but he could not tell anything because of Bayraktar's request. He concludes his column by saying that, this time we are in front of KIZILELELMA, who knows if we will be in front of a rocket that will go to space, in our next meeting.

Look what Selçuk Bayraktar had to say about this new company in August: "There are reusable systems that take payloads into space. But there are no systems that can be continued afterwards. We will also work in that field."

Obviously, the journalist listened something about Fergani Sky's vision and future plans. And what he heard and the impression he got led him to give such an irrelevant example. In front of a model of an aircraft being developed by a company specializing in unmanned systems, he talks about a manned space rocket. This is how he ends his column, not between the lines.

 

[Zafer]

We still have no idea what exactly Fergâni Space will be doing but I guess they will keep looking for opporrunities to find underserved space fields of work.

 

[Rodeo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1589391883515854853

Edit: I posted without really looking but it looks like a photoshop.

 

[Ryder]

The Chinese army is not one but seven armies that have own purchasing structures. In short multiply by seven for each kind of weapon unless one accept the other’s.

China is a paper tiger in short.

Damn what a nightmare.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

China is a paper tiger in short.

Damn what a nightmare.

Paper tiger? I dont seen so far paper tiger producing at same time 15 destroyers 180 meters , 2 Aircraft carriers . tens of frigates and corvetes + submarines.
The time will come when China will be sole Superpower by far that even USA EU Russia and Turkey together cant own them . While Russia cant sent troops in ukraine with huge numbers but sent just around 100k . China can sent 1 million like NOTHING .

 

[Agha Sher]

Paper tiger? I dont seen so far paper tiger producing at same time 15 destroyers 180 meters , 2 Aircraft carriers . tens of frigates and corvetes + submarines.
The time will come when China will be sole Superpower by far that even USA EU Russia and Turkey together cant own them . While Russia cant sent troops in ukraine with huge numbers but sent just around 100k . China can sent 1 million like NOTHING .

not to derail the thread but that will never happen. Their economy has slowed down significantly and their population is collapsing (being halved in the next 45 years). They, like Japan once upon a time, will disappoint and never take over the US.