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[Brokengineer]

Just like every country which attempted to make their own UCAVs used to imitate the US made MQ-9 and its derivatives, we can see now many are trying to clone the sophisticated yet very attractively priced Turkish drones:


Bayraktar TB-2:

Russia's Rostex with Korsar

Greece's Archytas drone (A project of a collective of universities)

China's CETC's UCAV

UAE's Edge Group with Reach-S

Baykar Akinci:

There is the Akinci clone from Paras, India:

TA ANKA:

There are several Iranian drones which resemble the TA ANKA

Here's one of them

Fact is, when you have a combat proven platform, everybody is going to try to copy it.

Copying frame design is one thing, making exact same capability is another.
For example, put tb2 alternatives in the sandstorms of gulf countries, can they operate 24h hours relentlessly. I do not think so.

 

[Lool]

Copying frame design is one thing, making exact same capability is another.
For example, put tb2 alternatives in the sandstorms of gulf countries, can they operate 24h hours relentlessly. I do not think so.

Just like every country which attempted to make their own UCAVs used to imitate the US made MQ-9 and its derivatives, we can see now many are trying to clone the sophisticated yet very attractively priced Turkish drones:


Bayraktar TB-2:

Russia's Rostex with Korsar

Greece's Archytas drone (A project of a collective of universities)

China's CETC's UCAV

UAE's Edge Group with Reach-S

Baykar Akinci:

There is the Akinci clone from Paras, India:

TA ANKA:

There are several Iranian drones which resemble the TA ANKA

Here's one of them

Fact is, when you have a combat proven platform, everybody is going to try to copy it.

The question here is why are they copying combat proven platforms in general

IMO, it is about the costs and time. When it comes to military hardware, the price of developing top quality effective and effecient products is both time and money. When some weapons are proven to be effective, other companies copy the outer platform in order to save both time and money! It is really difficult to develop novel new planes after all; Baykar TB2 is the result of decades and decades of work and research

Many new prominent Turkish weapons are copies of famous western proven weaponry; the TFX, for example, is a copy of the F22 and F35. The Rafale and Typhoon are nearly brother and sister in design. Indian AMCA is a F35 copy along with the Korean KF-21 is the F35 little brother! Even the Russian Su-57 is a copy of the F22; i-e, the similarities it has with the F22 is bigger than the similarities it had with previous Sukhoi fighter jets

And yes! This is just how difficult it actually is to provide or even devise an idea or a weaponry that can shape the future of warfare and yes this is exactpy what Baykar did

When it comes to developing really cheap drones that can fly; then the TB2 is the primary design of choice. However, as @Brokengineer just said, it is an altogether different matter to develop the software and engines etc...

 

[dBSPL]

Some of capabilities to be gained after the integration of AESA radar to AKINCI:

(as an alternative discussion topic, instead of the discussion on copycat systems)

 

[Fuzuli NL]

I've uploaded a pdf file with the images of the Turkish UAS pages here.

@Bogeyman @Aloster et al.

 

[Afif]

Some of capabilities to be gained after the integration of AESA radar to AKINCI:
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(as an alternative discussion topic, instead of the discussion on copycat systems)

I am still trying to figure out what exactly they meant by electronic support and electronic attack!

Does it mean murad will function as a part of ew suite ?

 

[Oublious]

I am still trying to figure out what exactly they meant by electronic support and electronic attack!

Does it mean murad will function as a part of ew suite ?

yes like the F35 radar.

 

[B_A]

We preferred the Chinese system over Russian and US systems

And Chinese brought and copy Russian S-400

 

[TR_123456]

We preferred the Chinese system over Russian and US systems

No we didnt,it was leverage.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1591359109332631552

 

[azaher77]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1591390977549570048

more 4 PKK terrorists detected in Hakurk and Claw-Kilit regions in northern Iraq were neutralized by our SİHAs.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1591359109332631552

This is today

My post yesterday

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Turkish Aerospace just announced that their unmanned jet fighter will fly in 2023!

Tarih belli oldu! 2023 Türkiye'nin göklerdeki miladı olacak: MMU yeni bir sayfa açacak

Havacılık ve uzay alanında yerli ve milli teknolojiler tasarlayan ve üreten Türk Havacılık ve Uzay Sanayi (TUSAŞ), çevikliği, gücü ve yüksek hayatta kalma kabiliyeti ile Milli Maharip Uçağı'nı (MMU) üretim hattından indirip 2023'te göklerle buluşturacak. Savunma sanayisi geleceğin harp ortamına...

www.sabah.com.tr

 

[dBSPL]

Turkish Aerospace just announced that their unmanned jet fighter will fly in 2023!

Tarih belli oldu! 2023 Türkiye'nin göklerdeki miladı olacak: MMU yeni bir sayfa açacak

Havacılık ve uzay alanında yerli ve milli teknolojiler tasarlayan ve üreten Türk Havacılık ve Uzay Sanayi (TUSAŞ), çevikliği, gücü ve yüksek hayatta kalma kabiliyeti ile Milli Maharip Uçağı'nı (MMU) üretim hattından indirip 2023'te göklerle buluşturacak. Savunma sanayisi geleceğin harp ortamına...

www.sabah.com.tr

In 2023 it will make its maiden flight, it is already on the assembly line and there are still no leaks. At this point, it is hard to believe that it is not a stealth-type penetrator aircraft.

 

[Zafer]

In 2023 it will make its maiden flight, it is already on the assembly line and there are still no leaks. At this point, it is hard to believe that it is not a stealth-type penetrator aircraft.

Indeed so stealth that our media haven't yet been able to get a glimpse of it even though they have be around it on many occasions. We wouldn't even believe it existed if the word of it didn't penetrate through the Internet.

 

[Merzifonlu]

Don't believe this Havuz Media!

In one part of the news it says "TAI's unmanned fighter will fly in 2023" and in another part of the same text it says "TFX will fly in 2023"!

Thats have no respect for their job!!

 

[Tornadoss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1591359109332631552

AFAIK Textron Uav was out there before TB-2. But correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Era_shield]

AFAIK Textron Uav was out there before TB-2. But correct me if I am wrong.

Nope, not only is the Textron catapult launched but the M2 (most similar to the TB2) is younger.

 

[Ryder]

Don't believe this Havuz Media!

In one part of the news it says "TAI's unmanned fighter will fly in 2023" and in another part of the same text it says "TFX will fly in 2023"!

Thats have no respect for their job!!

Thats why mainstream media is the worst for defence news.

 

[Aloster]

Nope, not only is the Textron catapult launched but the M2 (most similar to the TB2) is younger.

M2 shadow release date 2011-2012 smilar to TB2

AAI unveils Shadow M2

AAI has unveiled the Shadow M2, a significantly larger and heavier version of its RQ-7B Shadow, the US Army's standard tactical unmanned air vehicle (UAV).

www.flightglobal.com

 

[Era_shield]

M2 shadow release date 2011-2012 smilar to TB2

AAI unveils Shadow M2

AAI has unveiled the Shadow M2, a significantly larger and heavier version of its RQ-7B Shadow, the US Army's standard tactical unmanned air vehicle (UAV).

www.flightglobal.com

Hmm, you're right. Seems my memory of Caldiran and TB2 has blended together a little.