TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[Heartbang]

Ever since KE was announced, I've given a lot of thought to the LOS issue when managing supersonic drones like KE.

I think, at some point, we will use "AWACS-style" flying UCAV operators to manage our UCAVs in the air. IMO we will probably modify the two-engine Anka-3 for that job.

Then the LOS range will be considerably extended and the supersonic KE with 30 mm autocannon can engage in close range engagement with the help of its advanced AI.

Nope, too centralized of an approach.

I anticipate a peer-to-peer comm relay solution to be implemented on every platform made. Manned, unmanned, land, sea, air; every single platform deployed will act as a relay to everything else and the operator will be able to tap into any one of those platforms to issue directives using various different methods.

 

[Merzifonlu]

Nope, too centralized of an approach.

I anticipate a peer-to-peer comm relay solution to be implemented on every platform made. Manned, unmanned, land, sea, air; every single platform deployed will act as a relay to everything else and the operator will be able to tap into any one of those platforms to issue directives using various different methods.

I did not say that they will be guided by the operators moment by moment. UCAV operators will issue non-detailed orders, AI will implement the details.

However, we must be able to order any drone at any time and without any delay in LOS. Beyond operational requirements, this is also necessary in terms of AI law in military.

So no, I don't think this is an too centralized approach. BTW, peer to peer communication capability is a capability that should exist by default for us.

 

[uçuyorum]

I did not say that they will be guided by the operators moment by moment. UCAV operators will issue non-detailed orders, AI will implement the details.

However, we must be able to order any drone at any time and without any delay in LOS. Beyond operational requirements, this is also necessary in terms of AI law in military.

So no, I don't think this is an too centralized approach. BTW, peer to peer communication capability is a capability that should exist by default for us.

What laws are those, specifically? And how do they effect other traditional munitions like cruise missiles?

 

[YeşilVatan]

What laws are those, specifically? And how do they effect other traditional munitions like cruise missiles?

And to go even further; what prevents us from just renaming the platforms and doing whatever we want anyway? Like the Japanese do with their not-carriers.

 

[Merzifonlu]

By the way, according to the statement of @VLS on Defenceturk.com, there was no project or study for the 30 mm autocannon integration to the KE. So that news was not true.

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1680271069473562627

Boyga 81mm mortar dropping uav

 

[Bayraktar TB2]

CATS Argos at 18000~ feet

First time I see picture in picture mode.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656710150416220189

 

[manifesto]

CATS at 18000~ feet

But not belong to CATS interface this image. This belong to Hensoldt Argos.

 

[Bayraktar TB2]

But not belong to CATS interface this image. This belong to Hensoldt Argos.

From the video. Looks like CATS to me? But you are right the strike was likely made with argos FLIR..

 

[Sanchez]

Wonder which Turkish UAV users use which FLIR(Wescam, Hensoldt, Aselsan) on their drones. Could be a great little OSINT project for future reference. I miss having free time.

 

[Kaan Azman]

One day

 

[Hasanrize]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1681232192159076353

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1681232192159076353

Has anyone seen anything about the actual cost of the agreement?

 

[Hasanrize]

Has anyone seen anything about the actual cost of the agreement?

There is no information about it except for being a lot.

 

[boredaf]

Haluk Bayraktar talked about the cost of the AKINCI UCAV for the first time

Haluk Bayraktar AKINCI TİHA'nın maliyetine ilk kez değindi

BAYKAR Genel Müdürü Haluk Bayraktar, AKINCI TİHA'nın birim maliyetine ilk kez değindi. AKINCI TİHA, Bayraktar TB2'den 10 kat daha fazla adam/saat gerektiriyor.

www.savunmasanayist.com

"According to Bayraktar, the AKINCI TUAV requires 10 times more man/hours than the Bayraktar TB2 and has a cost four times higher than the Bayraktar TB2."

 

[Heartbang]

Haluk Bayraktar talked about the cost of the AKINCI UCAV for the first time

Haluk Bayraktar AKINCI TİHA'nın maliyetine ilk kez değindi

BAYKAR Genel Müdürü Haluk Bayraktar, AKINCI TİHA'nın birim maliyetine ilk kez değindi. AKINCI TİHA, Bayraktar TB2'den 10 kat daha fazla adam/saat gerektiriyor.

www.savunmasanayist.com

"According to Bayraktar, the AKINCI TUAV requires 10 times more man/hours than the Bayraktar TB2 and has a cost four times higher than the Bayraktar TB2."

so... 20 mil confirmed?

 

[boredaf]

so... 20 mil confirmed?

Doubt TB-2's production cost is 5 mil. But if we take it as he was talking about the public price of TB-2, yeah around that I guess.

 

[Zafer]

I wouldn't sell Akınıcı for less than $40mn without ammo. It turns out to be the medicine for underpowered adversaries.

 

[TheInsider]

so... 20 mil confirmed?

He is probably talking about flyaway prices so more or less it is confirmed.

 

[dBSPL]

Concept illustration:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1682337617310785537

If we consider 3 groups work in the mission deployment:

-Bomber UCAVs in the KAAN' wing.
-Fighter UCAVs escorting unmanned bombers and manned stealth jets
-In the rear is a Hurjet light jet, which I think will have direct access to UCAVs over second pilot.

+++ And probably half a dozen or so super-lightning drones on the front line.