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-In the rear is a Hurjet light jet, which I think will have direct access to UCAVs over second pilot.
It would make much more sense to use the modified Anka-3 with twin engines to operate the drones. 2 X TEI TF-6000 is suitable. That system can carry a 4-person drone operator team.

Hürjet makes no sense. If we will operate that stealth fleet with non-stealth aircraft, they'll laugh at us.
 
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It would make much more sense to use the modified Anka-3 with twin engines to operate the drones. 2 X TEI TF-6000 is suitable. That system can carry a 4-person drone operator team.

Hürjet makes no sense. If we will operate that stealth fleet with non-stealth aircraft, they'll laugh at us.
Turning a drone into a manned plane is not as easy as just throwing few seats in there, especially not one that also happens to be a flying wing. That would have to be completely new plane, not a modified drone.
 

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Hürjet makes no sense. If we will operate that stealth fleet with non-stealth aircraft, they'll laugh at us.
Here all platforms are shown in one frame, but this is not what I was trying to explain. That's why I qualified the Hürjet as the third group. This aircraft will not be long-range in terms of mission radius anyway. But its lifting capacity of around 3 tons and relatively good installed power can make it an important bridge platform between deep strike drones and operational command-control. UCAVs will already have wide mission autonomy capabilities, so in a way, Hurjets can work like mini AEW-Cs, or, as an electronic warfare aircraft like EA-18G and so. This is an aircraft for which we don't have to wait five years for congressional approval. So I think it's not a very utopian point of view that it can become whatever is needed from this range.

Üstadım, We are on our way to having a relatively good installed power, a dual pilot seating arrangement, and a relatively agile aircrafts that can reach supersonic speeds. This aircraft is not a foreign purchase, it is a domestic production, so I am in favor of deriving it to every possible mission type during the Hürjet program. This has nothing to do with ridiculousness.

Also I think the important thing here is communication stealthness, structural rcs stealth cannot be critical for an support aircrafts that will not fly directly over adversary assets.
 
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It would make much more sense to use the modified Anka-3 with twin engines to operate the drones. 2 X TEI TF-6000 is suitable. That system can carry a 4-person drone operator team.

Hürjet makes no sense. If we will operate that stealth fleet with non-stealth aircraft, they'll laugh at us.
Here is what could you With two TF-6000 as manned aircraft

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Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force U-36A
 
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Hürjet makes no sense. If we will operate that stealth fleet with non-stealth aircraft, they'll laugh at us.
If one manages to keep the operator aircraft far, FAR away from op zone, using Hurjet to control stealth UCAV's as a concept is feasible.

You could use the nose AESA array to communicate with the drones from stand-off ranges. One can also supplement this role with jammer/AEW pods under the Hurjet's wings.
 

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No high power turboprop beyond 200HP for TB-2/Akinci, no TF-6000 or OZGUR AESA serial production in sight, no quality visuals on par with Wescam series, who knows what compromises were granted to UAE and KS for the funds, F-110's still in the gray, despite Sweden's accession which was for dead EU bid? (LMAO). Who will do an about face on the terms like Finland. W Meanwhile China just recently began implementing the WS-15 after all those years, and they report themselves it's subpar to the JSF in every way. Yeah, I'm thinking the TF-X serial production is ready by 2028 with the TF-35000.
 

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We need Large Language Models (LLM) for Air warfare

We know that LLM's are like really sophisticated autocomplete. Basically all text files(books, internet) are included in a language model. if you say what is on a race track? It could predict that most things written about that subject replied with a "car".

With a Math based visual LLM variation, I think we could predict from previous dogfights of what path an Aircraft took to know what path we can take. E.g: Radar detects an object at certain x-y-z axis with nose pointing to north then we can predict where we can go or do based on previously won dogfights.


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We need Large Language Models (LLM) for Air warfare

We know that LLM's are like really sophisticated autocomplete. Basically all text files(books, internet) are included in a language model. if you say what is on a race track? It could predict that most things written about that subject replied with a "car".

With a Math based visual LLM variation, I think we could predict from previous dogfights of what path an Aircraft took to know what path we can take. E.g: Radar detects an object at certain x-y-z axis with nose pointing to north then we can predict where we can go or do based on previously won dogfights.


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It's already been done and tested in a simulation against an F-16 pilot. You can find some videos posted about it in this thread or maybe it was the Kaan thread.
 

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Can somebody post the link? I would like to read about it. But I guess you are right as I believe there are electronic signiture collection devices(can't remember the name) that they can attach to fighters during training to gather movement intel to train pilots further back in base. There are also ground based Sigint stuff(Havelsan?) in Anatolian Eagel exercise field.

So it must be easy to build some kind of a math based visual LLM
 

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Just posting this link to F35 DAS, as it's related to this LLM stuff.


With this it will be really easy for the AI to calculate where the enemy is.
 

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The Autonomous Arm Flight (OKU) project, which will have the ability to operate together with MMU KAAN and ANKA III UAV systems, will be introduced in IDEF23, and a ground control station produced in accordance with NATO standards will also be present. The station, which can be produced as fixed or mobile in line with its modular structure and requirements, will also have the ability to fly more than one UAV system at the same time.



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