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Wonder which Turkish UAV users use which FLIR(Wescam, Hensoldt, Aselsan) on their drones. Could be a great little OSINT project for future reference. I miss having free time.
 

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Haluk Bayraktar talked about the cost of the AKINCI UCAV for the first time


"According to Bayraktar, the AKINCI TUAV requires 10 times more man/hours than the Bayraktar TB2 and has a cost four times higher than the Bayraktar TB2."
 

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Haluk Bayraktar talked about the cost of the AKINCI UCAV for the first time


"According to Bayraktar, the AKINCI TUAV requires 10 times more man/hours than the Bayraktar TB2 and has a cost four times higher than the Bayraktar TB2."
so... 20 mil confirmed?
 

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I wouldn't sell Akınıcı for less than $40mn without ammo. It turns out to be the medicine for underpowered adversaries.
 

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Concept illustration:

If we consider 3 groups work in the mission deployment:

-Bomber UCAVs in the KAAN' wing.
-Fighter UCAVs escorting unmanned bombers and manned stealth jets
-In the rear is a Hurjet light jet, which I think will have direct access to UCAVs over second pilot.

+++ And probably half a dozen or so super-lightning drones on the front line.
 

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-In the rear is a Hurjet light jet, which I think will have direct access to UCAVs over second pilot.
It would make much more sense to use the modified Anka-3 with twin engines to operate the drones. 2 X TEI TF-6000 is suitable. That system can carry a 4-person drone operator team.

Hürjet makes no sense. If we will operate that stealth fleet with non-stealth aircraft, they'll laugh at us.
 
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It would make much more sense to use the modified Anka-3 with twin engines to operate the drones. 2 X TEI TF-6000 is suitable. That system can carry a 4-person drone operator team.

Hürjet makes no sense. If we will operate that stealth fleet with non-stealth aircraft, they'll laugh at us.
Turning a drone into a manned plane is not as easy as just throwing few seats in there, especially not one that also happens to be a flying wing. That would have to be completely new plane, not a modified drone.
 

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Hürjet makes no sense. If we will operate that stealth fleet with non-stealth aircraft, they'll laugh at us.
Here all platforms are shown in one frame, but this is not what I was trying to explain. That's why I qualified the Hürjet as the third group. This aircraft will not be long-range in terms of mission radius anyway. But its lifting capacity of around 3 tons and relatively good installed power can make it an important bridge platform between deep strike drones and operational command-control. UCAVs will already have wide mission autonomy capabilities, so in a way, Hurjets can work like mini AEW-Cs, or, as an electronic warfare aircraft like EA-18G and so. This is an aircraft for which we don't have to wait five years for congressional approval. So I think it's not a very utopian point of view that it can become whatever is needed from this range.

Üstadım, We are on our way to having a relatively good installed power, a dual pilot seating arrangement, and a relatively agile aircrafts that can reach supersonic speeds. This aircraft is not a foreign purchase, it is a domestic production, so I am in favor of deriving it to every possible mission type during the Hürjet program. This has nothing to do with ridiculousness.

Also I think the important thing here is communication stealthness, structural rcs stealth cannot be critical for an support aircrafts that will not fly directly over adversary assets.
 
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It would make much more sense to use the modified Anka-3 with twin engines to operate the drones. 2 X TEI TF-6000 is suitable. That system can carry a 4-person drone operator team.

Hürjet makes no sense. If we will operate that stealth fleet with non-stealth aircraft, they'll laugh at us.
Here is what could you With two TF-6000 as manned aircraft

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Learjet

Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force U-36A
 
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Hürjet makes no sense. If we will operate that stealth fleet with non-stealth aircraft, they'll laugh at us.
If one manages to keep the operator aircraft far, FAR away from op zone, using Hurjet to control stealth UCAV's as a concept is feasible.

You could use the nose AESA array to communicate with the drones from stand-off ranges. One can also supplement this role with jammer/AEW pods under the Hurjet's wings.
 

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No high power turboprop beyond 200HP for TB-2/Akinci, no TF-6000 or OZGUR AESA serial production in sight, no quality visuals on par with Wescam series, who knows what compromises were granted to UAE and KS for the funds, F-110's still in the gray, despite Sweden's accession which was for dead EU bid? (LMAO). Who will do an about face on the terms like Finland. W Meanwhile China just recently began implementing the WS-15 after all those years, and they report themselves it's subpar to the JSF in every way. Yeah, I'm thinking the TF-X serial production is ready by 2028 with the TF-35000.
 

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