This absolutely great. If it weighs the same as its artillery version, even TB-3 should be able to take off with 2 of these. I hope UAV-230 and UAV-122 will be in serial production soon.
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This absolutely great. If it weighs the same as its artillery version, even TB-3 should be able to take off with 2 of these. I hope UAV-230 and UAV-122 will be in serial production soon.
I love it. Both Akinci and Aksungur can carry multiple of these. In fact Akinci can fill all its 8 hard points with IHA122. Aksungur can do the same with 6 hard points.@Yasar will like it.
What would be your range estimation if TRG300 is launched from an Akıncı?I love it. Both Akinci and Aksungur can carry multiple of these. In fact Akinci can fill all its 8 hard points with IHA122. Aksungur can do the same with 6 hard points.
I am still pining for the Turkish TRG300 missiles to be integrated in to our jets.
Too heavy and bigWhat would be your range estimation if TRG300 is launched from an Akıncı?
On a separate note, does land or air launch affect CEP values? I'd imagine not but you never know with these things.
Given that UAV-230 has more than twice the maximum range (70 vs 150) and UAV-122 having almost twice (30 vs 55) an UAV-300 would probably have at around 200 kms at least, my bet would be around 250. Checking right now TRG-300 Block III has 120 kms of maximum range, so, really long.What would be your range estimation if TRG300 is launched from an Akıncı?
On a separate note, does land or air launch affect CEP values? I'd imagine not but you never know with these things.
I don't know how long it is but Block III weighs 585 kgs according to Roketsan so it isn't any heavier than other ordinance our F-16s can carry.Too heavy and big
TRG300 equivalent is Israeli “Rampage” missile. Their F16s can carry 4 of these. Launched from air, the Israelis conservatively state that they at least double their land launched ranges.What would be your range estimation if TRG300 is launched from an Akıncı?
On a separate note, does land or air launch affect CEP values? I'd imagine not but you never know with these things.
Yeah but akıncı capacity is much smaller than F16. Such a heavy munition would go under the single hard point under the fuselage. It is 5.5 meters, it would cause issues there I thinkGiven that UAV-230 has more than twice the maximum range (70 vs 150) and UAV-122 having almost twice (30 vs 55) an UAV-300 would probably have at around 200 kms at least, my bet would be around 250. Checking right now TRG-300 Block III has 120 kms of maximum range, so, really long.
I don't know how long it is but Block III weighs 585 kgs according to Roketsan so it isn't any heavier than other ordinance our F-16s can carry.
Air defense missiles are mach 4+. Any system having ANY difficulty detecting or stopping Mach 1 something rocket should be thrown to trash. Like most of the very old Russian systems in Syria.a terminal speed of 1.1 to 1.7 Mach. This makes it very hard for the enemy Air Defence Systems to intercept this missile. It has been successfully battle tested many times in Syria.
Air defence missiles’ flight speed is secondary when it comes to intercepting.Air defense missiles are mach 4+. Any system having ANY difficulty detecting or stopping Mach 1 something rocket should be thrown to trash. Like most of the very old Russian systems in Syria.
PAC-1: Mach 2.8 PAC-2/PAC-3: Mach 4.1 (5000 km/h)
All of your posts comes down to "omg everything Greece has is better than what we have and it can "EASILY" beat what we have!!!1!!1I just don't want our people (especially Erdogan & co.) to acquire false bravado and belittle our foes when they did with Tayfun.
I am saying it is not only possible but also EASY to stop these for modern systems. Don't assume Greek air defenses (Russian and American made) would have any issues stopping these SUPPEERsonic missiles. Same goes for Tayfun. Stop acting like Tayfun is some Mach 20+ Satan II MIRV ICBM and not just another easy meat for modern Patriots. We will be lucky if 1 hits out of 10. American Patriots have been shutting down hundreds of ballistic missiles much faster than these. Including Kinzhal and once much feared Iskanders with their decoys and countermeasures etc. Patriots have %80-98% success rate depending on the missile. These air launched artillery rockets act a bit more like cruise missiles closer to target compared to ballistic missiles, just half a mach faster and a bit smaller RCS than cruise missiles THAT'S IT!
That's no problem whatsoever for modern systems. Well it might be a problem for Siper since our missiles apparently are much slower even compared to relatively slow Patriots. I have read Mach 2 or something can't really remember.
There are simulations where thousands of shahed drones fired against a patriot site which is protected by Rams.I just don't want our people (especially Erdogan & co.) to acquire false bravado and belittle our foes when they did with Tayfun.
I am saying it is not only possible but also EASY to stop these for modern systems. Don't assume Greek air defenses (Russian and American made) would have any issues stopping these SUPPEERsonic missiles. Same goes for Tayfun. Stop acting like Tayfun is some Mach 20+ Satan II MIRV ICBM and not just another easy meat for modern Patriots. We will be lucky if 1 hits out of 10. American Patriots have been shutting down hundreds of ballistic missiles much faster than these. Including Kinzhal and once much feared Iskanders with their decoys and countermeasures etc. Patriots have %80-98% success rate depending on the missile. These air launched artillery rockets act a bit more like cruise missiles closer to target compared to ballistic missiles, just half a mach faster and a bit smaller RCS than cruise missiles THAT'S IT!
That's no problem whatsoever for modern systems. Well it might be a problem for Siper since our missiles apparently are much slower even compared to relatively slow Patriots. I have read Mach 2 or something can't really remember.
You throw thousands of shahed drones at one site, you're out of drones now. To replenish you'll need months.There are simulations where thousands of shahed drones fired against a patriot site which is protected by Rams.
Eventually Patriot side is demolished. The cost of shaheds are nothing compared to patriots lost.
Makes you think if even cheaper decoy drones are worth it...You throw thousands of shahed drones at one site, you're out of drones now. To replenish you'll need months.
As it hits denser air around 15km altitude it starts losing speed. But as it is coming down to near perpendicular to target it is not easy to intercept.
The missiles like TRG-300 are quasi ballistic missiles. Their main job is to carry a heavy destructive explosive to the target area.Then we need to convert some SAM , air to surface missiles as they are easy to be controlled at high speed.
At least supersonic anti-radiation or antiship missiles.
You speak like you can replace patriots in a week's time.You throw thousands of shahed drones at one site, you're out of drones now. To replenish you'll need months.