TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[Anmdt]

It's a must have for both Kızılelma and Anka-3, anything else would compromise their stealth. I wonder if they could get hydraulic actuators integrated before starting batch production, kinda doubt it though.

It is possible that first batch will be ED (Early delivery units) delivered with ukranian engine, no IRST or Targeting pod and electric actuator. Those electric actuators are the reason why control surfaces are divided up too.

I have told that before they are working on those in plane actuators but i didn't even know electric actuators was a thing. They are working those since development of first KE prototype has begun. Hope it catches up to the first deliveries.

 

[Samba]

Why?

How many countries have ever flown a flying wing plane?

 

[boredaf]

How many countries have ever flown a flying wing plane?

Question was why is it important for Anka-3 to fly before TB-3, not flying wings or not. Why does it matter which one flies first if Anka-3 is a success? And TB-3 as well.

 

[Merzifonlu]

Baykar is currently conducting studies regarding the development of hydraulic actuators.

There is something I don't understand. Doesn't TAI already have hydraulic actuator technology? Why don't they pay and buy these parts from TAI? Wouldn't things be a lot faster this way?

 

[Bogeyman]

There is something I don't understand. Doesn't TAI already have hydraulic actuator technology? Why don't they pay and buy these parts from TAI? Wouldn't things be a lot faster this way?

Pride. They do not get along with each other. There is an unspoken enmity in the middle.

 

[Bürküt]

Pride. They do not get along with each other. There is an unspoken enmity in the middle.

This means that the country's resources and energy are not used in an optimized way.I wish this was happening only with UAVs or Air vehicles.It's same with the Sage and Roketsan

 

[Agha Sher]

This means that the country's resources and energy are not used in an optimized way.I wish this was happening only with UAVs or Air vehicles.It's same with the Sage and Roketsan

Though I see the problem with them not cooperating on simple things, I do not believe it is sub-optimal in the bigger picture. let TAI and Baykar be in fierce competition with each other, pushing both to develop world-class products to conquer the world markets.

 

[AWP]

There is something I don't understand. Doesn't TAI already have hydraulic actuator technology? Why don't they pay and buy these parts from TAI? Wouldn't things be a lot faster this way?

I thinks it's good, to create a competition on who can make a better actuator or any part in general

But in that case who decide which part to be used , SSB or TSK ?

 

[B_A]

「バイラクタル」陸自ついに導入か ウクライナの英雄的トルコ製無人機で“部隊”編成？ その背景（1/3 ページ） | 乗りものニュース

ウクライナ戦の“英雄”とも讃えられるトルコ製の無人航空機「バイラクタル」を、ついに日本の陸上自衛隊が導入するかもしれません。陸自はこれをどう運用するのでしょうか。実は今回、バイラクタルの“ライバル”も比較検討されます。（1/3 ページ）

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The Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force may finally introduce the Turkish-made unmanned aerial vehicle Bayraktar, which is praised as the "hero" of the war in Ukraine. How will the Ground Self-Defense Force operate this? In fact, Bayraktar's "rivals" will also be compared this time.


At a media briefing on the FY2022 defense budget draft held on December 22, 2022, the Ministry of Defense prefaced the announcement that the Ground Self-Defense Force's multi-purpose unmanned aerial vehicle was "just an example." However, the name of Bayraktar TB2 was mentioned.


A model of the Bayraktar TB2 on display at the Baikal Technologies booth at Indu Defense 2022 (photographed by Osamu Takeuchi).

　In November 2022, I had the opportunity to hear from Baikal Technologies staff at the defense equipment exhibition “Indu Defense 2022” held in Jakarta, the capital of Indonesia. The staff who responded carefully chose their words, but acknowledged that the Ministry of Defense and the Ground Self-Defense Force have shown great interest in the Bayraktar TB2.

 

[I_Love_F16]

I still think that Aksungur would be more suited for a country like Japan. More suited for maritime operations and around 50h of endurance.

 

[boredaf]

I still think that Aksungur would be more suited for a country like Japan. More suited for maritime operations and around 50h of endurance.

They might be planning ahead for a potential war in the mainland against China, instead of defense of their island. They can easily put them in South Korea or any beachhead and use them.

 

[Kitra]

This means that the country's resources and energy are not used in an optimized way.I wish this was happening only with UAVs or Air vehicles.It's same with the Sage and Roketsan

It is a strategic choice of TSK and the government to have multiple sources for everything from weapons to even nuclear power plants. If one fails/delays the development or is embargoed then the other can continue. this actually happened to our plans with nuclear power plants. 3 were planned but only one got built.

With this strategy, you have a better product while only money is "wasted". Futhermore, we are actually not even wasting money with this strategy since the actual goal is the development of human resources which can handle difficult situations.

The option of not having an fighter/drone/npp could mean disaster.

So this strategy is GOOD and should be supported.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1699053019567198290

 

[Zafer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1699053019567198290

A hell of an RC plane.

 

[uçuyorum]

I hope with the manned unmanned team and loyal wingman concepts, aerospace companies will improve usability of interfaces and autonomy of manned fighters to the point pilot no longer has to engage with throttle and stick and instead can focus on weapons and mission systems. I mean what stops any manned plane from being able to take off, land and cruise with very little real time input just like uavs can?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

RED KAAN's loyal wingman???
PURPLE unmanned fighter???

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The way I understand it:

Red = Downscaled pre-prototype scaled model (similar to "Öncü" before ANKA and "taktik Caldiran" before TB-2)
Purple = Full-scale prototype.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1700051488930697422

Our passion for landing on aircraft carriers with piston-engined UAVs also attracted the British. This disease infected them too. puhahaha

 

[Anmdt]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1700051488930697422

Our passion for landing on aircraft carriers with piston-engined UAVs also attracted the British. This disease infected them too. puhahaha

I have expected a better test from UK to be honest. We are going to need a similar cargo drone in future, in fact, more than an armed drone to be honest.

 

[Ahlatshah]

I have expected a better test from UK to be honest. We are going to need a similar cargo drone in future, in fact, more than an armed drone to be honest.

UK seems bad at developing drones. It is very surprising for aviation country such as UK

According to this article, 8 of 54 Watchkeepers UAVs have been down in recent years. Moreover, they couldnt sustain 6000 flight hours in a year, only 1200 or so. The reason is , if the article is to be believed, weather conditions of Britain island, but watchkeepers couldnt fly at hot air of the gulf.

Examining The Deployment Of The U.K.'s Troubled Watchkeeper Drones At Fort Bliss

Despite efforts to improve its Watchkeepers, the British Army has faced persistent problems with them and has a huge bill to show for it.

www.thedrive.com

 

[Afif]

For their UCAV requirement, they just bought MQ-9B off the shelf. Same with AH-64E for their Attack helicopter program.
For last 20 years, their Naval programs are more active than Aerospace ones. (Astute class SSN, Vanguard SSBN, Queen Elizabeth class AC, Type 26 Frigate.)