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[uçuyorum]

Anka III simple does not have a big enough radome to put a radar inside for long range BVR combat. It will likely to have a combination of SAR & FLIR in its belly like RQ-170. And A2A engagement is likely to be limited to WVR or near WVR.

I mean legion pod allows use of AMRAAM, so maybe it could havd an IRST like that? Or they could fit a modified radar that's wider and thinner?

 

[Afif]

I mean legion pod allows use of AMRAAM, so maybe it could havd an IRST like that?

Through networking yes, legion pod could do that. You are right, they could put KAAN's IRST on ANKA-III. That would theoretically give it BVR capability.

 

[Heartbang]

The most feasible way to do A2A combat with ANKA-3 would be to use it as an extended magazine of sorts for our more air combat oriented platforms.
The US air force already has such plans for B21 Raider.

 

[Hasanrize]

Because those planes have the payload capacity to carry more than what their inner stations allow, whereas Anka-3 doesn't. Carrying 4 small bombs instead of 2 big ones isn't exactly a "beast" mode either.

Not to mention, comparing Anka-3 to F-35 is comparing apples to oranges both in terms of its class and shape. If anything, the comparison should be B-2 or other deep strike crafts, which do not feature outer pylons. Flying wing design is most useful when it is used for deep strike, not a2a engagements, even though I know TAI keeps saying it can also do that.

Even in the beast mode, Anka-3 is faster and more agile than both Akıncı and Aksungur. You have to keep in mind that the Anka-3 has a turbofan engine, meaning that it is going to change altitude much faster. All those Drones take almost half an hour to reach cruise speed since their engines were optimized for long endurance.
Also, probably even in the beast mode, Anka-3 will have lower RCS compared to Akıncı and Aksungur.

 

[dBSPL]

Meanwhile, TAI's UAV division is designing a UCAV that will fly with the F110 or a similar engine. While we attribute a modest role to the ANKA-III... Probably the backlog of the KAAN program provides a very strong infrastructure for TAI's ANKA-X programs. TAI's most important achievement in recent years has been its investments in testing and qualification of designs. When the new campus is fully operational, it will be one of the few facilities in the world that can carry out all the processes from zero to serial production of a combat aircraft. Therefore, I don't think it is a correct analysis to think that the mission descriptions of the concepts shared with the public are just reports written in a vague manner.

 

[boredaf]

Even in the beast mode, Anka-3 is faster and more agile than both Akıncı and Aksungur. You have to keep in mind that the Anka-3 has a turbofan engine, meaning that it is going to change altitude much faster. All those Drones take almost half an hour to reach cruise speed since their engines were optimized for long endurance.
Also, probably even in the beast mode, Anka-3 will have lower RCS compared to Akıncı and Aksungur.

You keep calling it "beast mode" but it isn't a beast mode at all. Beast mode is a code for filling the plane to the brim with weapons, more so than it can carry within its inner stations. When a F-35 goes into beast mode it more than doubles its payload capacity.

Anka-3's inner stations have more capacity than it can carry in total, 650x2 vs 1200kg payload capacity. It's not a "beast mode", it is a choice between compromising stealth to carry 2 more bombs with lower yield and shorter range at 4 pylons vs carrying 2 higher yield bombs with longer range without compromising stealth. I, personally, would much rather it just carried 2x Som-J (500 to 550kgs each with 250+ kms range).

 

[Sanchez]

Perhaps bombing cave with NEB bomb that weight 1+ ton

Well within Akıncı's capabilities tho.

From 2021:
"The AKINCI Attack Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) flew for 13 hours and 24 minutes with a payload of 1,360 kilograms. It was also noted that the AKINCI TİHA carried a penetrating bomb (NEB) developed locally by TÜBİTAK SAGE under the fuselage, and that it rose to an altitude of 9,144 meters (30,000 feet). AKINCI's take-off weight exceeded 6 tons in total."

AKINCI TİHA Nüfuz Edici Bomba (NEB-84) İle 13 Saat Uçtu

AKINCI Taarruzi İnsansız Hava Aracı (TİHA), 1.360 kilogramlık faydalı yükle 13 saat 24 dakikalık bir uçuş gerçekleştirdi.

www.savunmasanayist.com

This is the exact kind of mission profile Akıncı should have assumed by now.

 

[Anmdt]

It takes one to be loser for not deliberately mentioning TR in this article, even while mentioning countries that secured a deal with TR. Not a big source of the information nor well written but anything, but total show of being a loser.

Global MALE & HALE UAV Key Developments Across Global Top 10 Defence Spenders - European Security & Defence

Mandip Singh explains the main developments and trends with different Unmanned Aerial Vehicles around the world today.

euro-sd.com

 

[Oublious]

It takes one to be loser for not deliberately mentioning TR in this article, even while mentioning countries that secured a deal with TR. Not a big source of the information nor well written but anything, but total show of being a loser.

Global MALE & HALE UAV Key Developments Across Global Top 10 Defence Spenders - European Security & Defence

Mandip Singh explains the main developments and trends with different Unmanned Aerial Vehicles around the world today.

euro-sd.com

yeah look who wrote the article...


this is what i found....

Mandip Singh - Institute for Security and Development Policy

Experts on Conflict, Security & Development, Asia, Caucasus & Europe

www.isdp.eu

Mandip Singh

 

[Baryshx]

yeah look who wrote the article...


this is what i found....

Mandip Singh - Institute for Security and Development Policy

Experts on Conflict, Security & Development, Asia, Caucasus & Europe

www.isdp.eu

Mandip Singh

I think he is very emotional because of our relations with Pakistan. But what he's doing is pathetic, he's humiliating himself.

 

[Rodeo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1760736341074301139

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1760744327494406408

Mobile sea target firing with the Aselflir-500 has been successfully completed!

 

[Bogeyman]

They hit an Albatros-T USV, right?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1760748698412138713

Yeah thats right.

 

[Oublious]

They hit an Albatros-T USV, right?

o you ar right...


but why albatros?

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1760744327494406408

Mobile sea target firing with the Aselflir-500 has been successfully completed!

wave to the camera

 

[Radko]

"Köklerden Göklere" Ürün yerleştirme lol

 

[Rodeo]

ASELFLIR -500 in mission!

Bayraktar #AKINCI successfully hit three targets, including a moving sea target, in its first flight with #ASELFLIR500 .

MAM -L and MAM-T ammunition destroyed ASELSAN ALBATROS-T and other targets with one meter accuracy.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1760751372020944946

 

[Rodeo]

ASELFLIR -500 in mission!

Bayraktar #AKINCI successfully hit three targets, including a moving sea target, in its first flight with #ASELFLIR500 .

MAM -L and MAM-T ammunition destroyed ASELSAN ALBATROS-T and other targets with one meter accuracy.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1760751372020944946

ASELFLIR-500 is integrated onto AKINCI and they casually hit three targets with it on their first flight together.

They really have no time to lose

 

[manifesto]

Anyhow, We are expecting longer video about Aselflir 500 from ASELSAN

 

[boredaf]

ASELFLIR -500 in mission!

Bayraktar #AKINCI successfully hit three targets, including a moving sea target, in its first flight with #ASELFLIR500 .

MAM -L and MAM-T ammunition destroyed ASELSAN ALBATROS-T and other targets with one meter accuracy.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1760751372020944946

I like that they've used MAM-T, it has double the range and almost 5 times the weight of MAM-L, it'll be a pain the ass for targets. Can't wait to see UAV-230 and Çakır to be used like this as well.