TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[boredaf]

Does the UK have engines ready for drones like Kizilelma, ANKA3 etc?

They have an engine that is used in Global Hawk, though I don't know whether it is powerful enough or not. Or whether it would even fit. They also have another one but it is joint project with the French, so, that is out of the question. Then there is EJ200, of course, but that would be too big, maybe? Unless they've been working on something else.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

They have an engine that is used in Global Hawk, though I don't know whether it is powerful enough or not. Or whether it would even fit. They also have another one but it is joint project with the French, so, that is out of the question. Then there is EJ200, of course, but that would be too big, maybe? Unless they've been working on something else.

Was just a thought of mine because I think the ANKA3 and Kizilelma need better engines.

 

[boredaf]

Was just a thought of mine because I think the ANKA3 and Kizilelma need better engines.

Ukrainian engines could be okay until TF6K/10K is ready, or rather could've been if their factory hasn't been bombed at least a few times.

 

[Sanchez]

Some LBA milestones and key sites in Italy from Leonardo's 2025 semiannual financial report. Villanova dAlbenga is the old Piaggio factory. Ronchi dei Legionari should be the Selex factory. We'll probably see an overdrive on campaigning for it starting from 2026.

 

[what]

TRT World - Berlin should consider buying Turkish drones amid defence overhaul: German official

Türkiye has rapidly become a global leader in drone technology, prompting growing interest from European allies and other countries to pursue defence industry cooperation.

www.trtworld.com

Germany could easily buy and needs tactial drones, ie. TAIs, Baykars products. They could put Hensoldts optics on it too.
The procurement agency is pragmatic, but not the politicians and knowing Germany, they are too proud/stubborn to buy something from a country that is perceived as inferior.

But you either go with the time or run the day.

 

[what]

"We have signed a Memorandum of Understanding with BAE Systems to collaborate in the field of unmanned aerial systems and related technologies.

Within the scope of this collaboration, we aim to evaluate joint opportunities in the field of future unmanned systems and create new areas of cooperation."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1986474546652742142

"We see this as the start of a deep and meaningful alliance between our two organisations, each bringing complementary skills and capabilities to the table and a strong portfolio of uncrewed assets which we can leverage and combine to create a range of compelling and cost-effective solutions."

https://www.baesystems.com/en-uk/article/bae-systems-and-turkish-aerospace-to-collaborate-on-uncrewed-air-systems?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=baesystemsair&utm_campaign=SocialCT&utm_content=Post&utm_term=91b3c282-03f4-4814-b6c9-8637c273af7d

I'd love to see British-Turkish or Italian-Turkish products beat the French in the European market.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Does the UK have engines ready for drones like Kizilelma, ANKA3 etc?

RR Adour
max thrust :
6500lbf dry
8430lbf wet

Goshawk and Jaguar engine.

 

[Ripley]

Was just a thought of mine because I think the ANKA3 and Kizilelma need better engines.

I thought, this was an exclusive collaboration deal between BAE and TUSAŞ

 

[uçuyorum]

RR Adour
max thrust :
6500lbf dry
8430lbf wet

Goshawk and Jaguar engine.

Would have been nice before we invested so much in TF6000 but now that we have, we should try to maximize our orders of that in order to fund TEI and get a good return on that investment

 

[Yasar_TR]

Would have been nice before we invested so much in TF6000 but now that we have, we should try to maximize our orders of that in order to fund TEI and get a good return on that investment

It can still prove to be a testing and development engine for the interim period, until our TF10000 and TF6000 engines have matured.
In fact even the Honeywell can provide similar thrust level engines in the form of F124 and F125 to be suitable for both UAVs.

But none of the foreign engines will be correct for our intended final use. TF6000 and TF10000 are being designed to be suitable for a “stealth” plane. They employ technologies ahead of the others. Adour dates back to late 60’s. Honeywell engine to late 70’s. Even though both engines have been transformed by addition of newer technologies, they are still the product of an older era.

Since the planes these engines will propel won‘t be carrying human life, they don’t need lengthy certification procedures. Once the engines start delivering the required thrust levels, they can be installed and integrated on the Anka-3 and KE. So hopefully we won’t be waiting for serial production for too long like we have been doing for the TS-1400 engine.

 

[Boykaz]

Do you think Leonardo would integrate the ES-05 Raven radar into KIZILELMA? I believe the Gripen's radome is smaller than KIZILELMA's

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1987785076386443752

 

[Zafer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1987785076386443752

This is not Kızılelma!

 

[King_West]

This is not Kızılelma!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1987465133325455419

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1987787354665341074

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1988971087112311152

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1989592623783260299

 

[Pokemonte13]

That IIR/TV looks very different from earlier models.
Perhaps a cheaper seeker that is good enough for mam L and other rather short range cheap weapons maybe even for cirit then we would have an equal to APKWS II

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1990315993315606694

 

[Quasar]

 

[Afif]

I don't want to be overly critical. Aselsan makes excellent subsystems. but the build quality of the airframe itself needs to be improved by Baykar. To the level you see with TAI's KAAN prototype.