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Let us get few facts that are not mentioned here :

1. UAV122 is a ballistic missile. It actually loses a lot of it’s speed as it approaches it‘s target. It should hit the target at a speed between 0.6 to 0.9 Mach depending on its angle of attack. But due to initial high speed and its small size it would be very difficult to intercept. (With an average speed of ~2.5mach it reaches its target under 60 seconds if it is 55km away.) Yet a good CWIS like phalanx or a RAM system should bring it down.

2. UAV122 is the air launched version of trg122 artillery rocket. This rocket has a maximum range of 35 to 40km. When launched from air these rockets travel x2 plus 10-20km ( trg230 with 70km range turns in to uav230 and have a range of 150+km. Also rampage is similar to trg300 which has a range of 110-120km. When it becomes air launched it travels 250+km)
going by this logic, UAV122 should have a max range of 80+km.

3. UAV122 is a quasi ballistic missile. It has a suppressed trajectory. It has to go up to 30-35 km altitude and then free fall to ground. So there is nothing special about it going up to an altitude of 100000ft = ~31km. That is it‘s normal behaviour.

4. What would have been more important to mention would be the very fact that this missile is now integrated to TB3, and that it can carry 3 , even 4 of them. (That is still below TB3’s max load capacity. But can it take off from TCG Anadolu with that weight?)
 
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Let us get few facts that are not mentioned here :

1. UAV122 is a ballistic missile. It actually loses a lot it’s speed as it approaches it‘s target. It should hit the target at a speed between 0.6 to 0.9 Mach depending on it’s angle of attack. But due to initial high speed and its small size it would be very difficult to intercept. (With an average speed of ~2.5mach it reaches it’s target under 60 seconds if it is 55km away.) Yet a good CWIS like phalanx or a RAM system should bring it down.

2. UAV122 is the air launched version of trg122 artillery rocket. This rocket has a maximum range of 35 to 40km. When launched from air these rockets travel x2 plus 10-20km ( trg230 with 70km range turns in to uav230 and have a range of 150+km. Also rampage is similar to trg300 which has a range of 110-120km. When it becomes air launched it travels 250+km)
going by this logic, UAV122 should have a max range of 80+km.

3. UAV122 is a quasi ballistic missile. It has a suppressed trajectory. It has to go up to 30-35 km altitude and then free fall to ground. So there is nothing special about it going up to an altitude of 100000ft = ~31km. That is it‘s normal behaviour.

4. What would have been more important to mention would be the very fact that this missile is now integrated to TB3, and that it can carry 3 , even 4 of them. (That is still below TB3’s max load capacity. But can it take off from TCG Anadolu with that weight?)
Yeah it can take of Navy variant has 280 payload capacity but i'm unsure if it can take off with 4 but 2 should be possible
 

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Yeah it can take of Navy variant has 280 payload capacity but i'm unsure if it can take off with 4 but 2 should be possible
TB3 engine still has potential to go to higher power levels if you accept a shorter lifetime, so going from 196hp to 216 adding another 20hp may make what it may fall short of achieving today achievable in the future. Loading less fuel when the mission allows has the same effect.
 

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Technical details of the MIZRAK Smart Loitering Munition system were shown in the field for the first time.

🔹 Operational Altitude: 4,000 ft
🔹 Communication: LOS / BLOS (optional)
🔹 Communication Range: 80+ km
🔹 Operational Range: 1000+ km
🔹 Endurance: 7+ hours
🔹 Maximum Take-off Weight: 200 kg
🔹 Payload: 40 kg
🔹 Warhead: 40 kg (20 kg alternative configuration)

🔹 AI-powered autonomous mission
🔹 Anti-jamming and SATCOM capability
🔹 Relay communication via TB2, TB3 and AKINCI
🔹 EO/IR and RF seeker head options

The system; With its precision strike capabilities against surface targets, long range, and autonomous mission capabilities, it is among the standout platforms at the fair.


Baykar Mızrak can take off using an amikaze catapult.
 

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So you believe they pulled it off?
Undecided, it is like a 10% chance that they have nailed major aspects of the engine and need to work on some other aspects. Even if they are on the right path it can take decades more for something to come out as they don't have the required credentials for a capable design house and production capabilities. So at some point I guess when the TF35k engine becomes a reality this project will be dropped or be turned into a ship engine or power generator turbine project. Also their turboshaft engine weight seems excessive speaking off the top of my head. As I said before under favorable conditions like when money and focus poured on any project and with some luck things can happen, I can't rule that out.
 
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Undecided, it is like a 10% change that they have nailed major aspects of the engine and need to work on some other aspects. Even if they are on the right path it can take decades more for something to come out as they don't have the required credentials for a capable design house and production capabilities. So at some point I guess when the TF35k engine becomes a reality this project will be dropped or be turned into a ship engine or power generator turbine project. Also their turboshaft engine weight seems excessive speaking off the top of my head. As I said before under favorable conditions like when money and focus poured on any project and with some luck things can happen, I can't rule that out.
10% is no.
They said they already have 6 engines ready so if true why not show one of the six?
Does it make sense to you?
 
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