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There are unconfirmed reports of a fire in a Russian military base.

Again unconfirmed reports of a sizeable Wagner convoy heading to Moscow from Milerova
 
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There are reports that Ukrainian forces are storming Bakhmut or getting ready for an offensive on the Bakhmut line.

There are reports of clashes between Wagner forces and Russian forces on the Rostov-Moscow road. There are claims that Russian forces fled leaving their weapons on the ground.
 

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According to some sources, Putin is waiting to see who has the upper hand between Shoigu and Prigozhin. Commanders who are loyal to Putin are also waiting for the situation to unfold.
 
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According to some sources, Putin is waiting to see who has the upper hand between Shoigu and Progozin. Commanders loyal to Putin are also waiting for the situation to unfold.
This is also my reading. It's likely this was planned through Prigozhin and Putin via GRU, bypassing the FSB, with the purpose being to give Putin a way to withdraw from Ukraine without losing face. No matter if Wagner or MOD loses, Putin has a scapegoat and an excuse to withdraw from Ukraine.
 

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This is also my reading. It's likely this was planned through Prigozhin and Putin via GRU, bypassing the FSB, with the purpose being to give Putin a way to withdraw from Ukraine without losing face. No matter if Wagner or MOD loses, Putin has a scapegoat and an excuse to withdraw from Ukraine.

So this looks quite possible. But truth be told there is no way to save faith from withdrawing from ukraine. I get they are going to use a scapegoat here and there, but at the end of the day this all happened under Putin. Maybe its enough to maintain Putins powers over Russia and maybe thats all Putin needs.

The way the goblin is basically admitting that Russia started this war that the separatist regions civilians were not being targeted by Ukraine. The way he says zelensky was open to a settlement pre war. Its basically setting the ground work for the withdrawal and in essence a Russian surrender.

As much as the Russians/Putin will have a scapegoat, internationally it will not save face for Putin or Russia. They f'ed themselves hard over this fiasco of an invasion.

Now the worst case scenario for Russia is that this is a legitimate rebellion. If it is we are going to see within the next day or two whether it will be quelled quickly or whether Russia will set herself ablaze.

Eitherway i hope the Ukrainians really exploit the Russians over their turmoil, there must be parts of occupied Ukraine that will become prime targets for liberation.
 

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Prigozhin said that he enters Rostov


Russian border guards allegedly do not resist, and even "embrace with his fighters." At the same time, Prigogine threatened to "destroy everyone" who stood in his way.

On the night of Saturday, June 24, the head of Wagner PMC, Yevgeny Prigozhin, published a new voice message in which he stated that his fighters crossed the state border of the Russian Federation "in all places" and are now entering Rostov.





“At the moment, we have crossed the state border in all places. Border guards went out to meet and hug our fighters. Now we are entering Rostov,” Prigozhin said.



He also added that conscripts were thrown against the "Wagnerites", who step aside.



"We go further. If someone gets in the way, we will destroy everyone. We go to the end," Prigozhin stressed.



The head of the PMC also assures that the border guards "embrace with his fighters." However, there are no photos or videos of hugs.



In addition, Prigozhin said that Valery Gerasimov, the General Staff of the Russian Revolutionary Federation, gave the command to open fire from aircraft on Wagner columns mixed with civilian vehicles. However, the pilots refused to obey the order.



Recall that on Friday evening, Prigozhin’s statements appeared on Telegram channels accusing the Russian Defense Ministry of a missile attack on the Wagner PMC camps. After that, Prigozhin announced that he was withdrawing his forces from the front and was leading them to deal with the leadership of the Russian Defense Ministry.
 

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