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[SilverMachine]

Sorry that the Iranians destroyed the thought of what is considered superman in this forum.
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Say for example missiles have hit the Kaan in Turkey, I assure you the government and media would try to hide it if they had a considerable amount of those aircrafts like any country would if they had 5th gens.

Ecept (damn keyboard ain't working, forgive the letter omission) that didn't happen and your sources are shit.

The Iranians hit a bunch of above-ground hangars, and yes, damaged them significantly (albeit repairable, not catastrophic). The 35's aren't stored in those hangars, the usual militantly-salivating down-with-Israel types just took that hangar damage, conflated it with damaged airframes (which I can't even find confirmation on, any airframes even 15's or 16s alike) and ran with the false stories. Israel, like all competent nations, stores their valuable shit like 35s in reinforced protected hangars, some even underground. None of that was hit by Iran.

But yeah, like guys like you are ever going to be persuaded off your course of "I wish it therefore it's true!". Keep dealing in the conspiracies chief, we'll await the weather-controlling theories in good time.

 

[Spitfire9]

Sorry that the Iranians destroyed the thought of what is considered superman in this forum.
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Say for example missiles have hit the Kaan in Turkey, I assure you the government and media would try to hide it if they had a considerable amount of those aircrafts like any country would if they had 5th gens.

If Israel lost assets/air assets in missile attacks, so what? That is to be expected in an attack by a large number of missiles. What is the point you are trying to make? That the Israeli air defence system is not impregnable?

I would be curious to know what damage was done but I doubt it will restrict Israel's military capability, limiting what military operations it can undertake. Whatever aircraft losses were suffered, Uncle Sam will replace free of charge anyway (US military aid pays the bill).

 

[blackjack]

Ecept (damn keyboard ain't working, forgive the letter omission) that didn't happen and your sources are shit.

The Iranians hit a bunch of above-ground hangars, and yes, damaged them significantly (albeit repairable, not catastrophic). The 35's aren't stored in those hangars, the usual militantly-salivating down-with-Israel types just took that hangar damage, conflated it with damaged airframes (which I can't even find confirmation on, any airframes even 15's or 16s alike) and ran with the false stories. Israel, like all competent nations, stores their valuable shit like 35s in reinforced protected hangars, some even underground. None of that was hit by Iran.

But yeah, like guys like you are ever going to be persuaded off your course of "I wish it therefore it's true!". Keep dealing in the conspiracies chief, we'll await the weather-controlling theories in good time.

even with some telegram sources showing the satellite images of where F-35s are usually stationed get destroyed you will go with Israeli cope.

If Israel lost assets/air assets in missile attacks, so what? That is to be expected in an attack by a large number of missiles. What is the point you are trying to make? That the Israeli air defence system is not impregnable?

I would be curious to know what damage was done but I doubt it will restrict Israel's military capability, limiting what military operations it can undertake. Whatever aircraft losses were suffered, Uncle Sam will replace free of charge anyway (US military aid pays the bill).

having sufficient number of missiles against another nation that can easily destroy airbases that house 5th gens is an easy solution was the point that everything will eventually lead to a ground war.

 

[SilverMachine]

...Telegram sources. Again, quite a self-own on your part. They're not "usually stationed" there, some Russian incel made that up and you were gullible enough to buy into it. No reputable source has said Israel lost any 35s in the Iranian barrage, for one. Secondly, even if it happened, again it didn't, but if it did as the other guy says, hardly some game-changer. Plenty more where those came from, Iran's clearly laughably overmatched, and if they're really that intent on the fight then they're getting anally ravaged by the IDF.

Again though, your source is some rando dipshit on Telegram declaring that the F-35s are normally stored there, which A) They're not, and B) Even if they were, they would have been moved earlier given the Iranians telegraphed their barrage in advance. You're talking shit.

And to reiterate, Iran's air force is like comprised like 3/4 of tech from the 1970s. Might want to think twice before rattling that saber, champ. All they need is a reason to go all boot-on-ant.

We're also waaaaay off-topic of the Rooskies beating the Ukes.

 

[blackjack]

...Telegram sources. Again, quite a self-own on your part. They're not "usually stationed" there, some Russian incel made that up and you were gullible enough to buy into it. No reputable source has said Israel lost any 35s in the Iranian barrage, for one. Secondly, even if it happened, again it didn't, but if it did as the other guy says, hardly some game-changer. Plenty more where those came from, Iran's clearly laughably overmatched, and if they're really that intent on the fight then they're getting anally ravaged by the IDF.

Again though, your source is some rando dipshit on Telegram declaring that the F-35s are normally stored there, which A) They're not, and B) Even if they were, they would have been moved earlier given the Iranians telegraphed their barrage in advance. You're talking shit.

And to reiterate, Iran's air force is like comprised like 3/4 of tech from the 1970s. Might want to think twice before rattling that saber, champ. All they need is a reason to go all boot-on-ant.

We're also waaaaay off-topic of the Rooskies beating the Ukes.

holy fuck dude there are satellite images out there of the destroyed bunkers. Do you have a Jewish background by any chance which might explain your adamance of you keep telling me trust the western media which many Jewish people have high positions in controlling western media? We are still on topic if this involves the uselessness of aircrafts getting destroyed in airbases against another superpower in a conflict like this war.

 

[SilverMachine]

Destroyed *hangars*. Fuck, man. What aren't you getting? Hangars, not bunkers. Hangars that don't house F-35s.

And it's the Russia V.S. Ukraine thread, Iranian cheerleader gullible guy. Whoa.

 

[blackjack]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1859555264523010118

Destroyed *hangars*. Fuck, man. What aren't you getting? Hangars, not bunkers. Hangars that don't house F-35s.

And it's the Russia V.S. Ukraine thread, Iranian cheerleader gullible guy. Whoa.

Shalom

 

[Spitfire9]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1858531000025837761

Russia is certainly burning through its stockpile of stored weapons. It has sufficient recruits to keep troop levels high but at the cost of burning through its workforce, stripping the economy of labour in order to send it to Ukraine.

I do not think that Ukraine can regain on the battlefield the territory lost during the invasion. That possibility passed IMO when it became apparent that the West was not prepared to allow its 'best' weapons to be donated to Ukraine (eg HIMARS. ATACMS, F-16) or to allow the weapons it did eventually donate to be used to their best effect. Can you imagine North Korea supplying Russia with shells with the condition that they could only be fired at targets in occupied Russia (Kursk)?

The only way Ukraine can prevail militarily IMO would be through strikes on Russian infrastructure and logistics in Russia, starving the Russians on the front of the wherewithal to fight. Not going to happen though IMO.

The better approach to getting Putin to abandon his ambition of controlling Ukraine would have been through damaging the Russian economy. It has been damaged by sanctions but far less than if the sanctions had been enforced seriously eg I think that Azerbaijan imports of machine tools rose 800% yet kept being supplied even though it was obvious their final destination was Russia. Same game with airliner spares, oil production spares etc. Russia's economy could have been brought to its knees if the West had chosen to do that. Could still be.

 

[Iskander]

You're talking shit.

Colleague, are you talking about the moderator?
You know, before you came to our forum, I had a completely different opinion about Australians

 

[Afif]

First military use of intercontinental ballistic missile!

Ukraine claims Russia fired intercontinental ballistic missile at Dnipro | Ukraine | The Guardian

If confirmed, firing of weapon would mark first time missile – which can carry nuclear payload – has been used

amp.theguardian.com