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An episode of work in the Zaporizhia region of Ukraine, servicemen of the Stavropol airborne assault regiment of the Russian group of troops "Dnepr". The mobile crew uses, presumably, a homemade buggy, armed with an ATGM "Kornet". ATGM "Kornet" is capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 8000 meters. The tactics of such crews, rapid movement to a given position and leaving it. Presumably, a stronghold of the Ukrainian army was fired upon.

 

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The video shows a Russian drone from the Okhotnik special forces unit of the 51st Guards Army of the Southern Group of Forces attacking a Ukrainian robotic transport platform. The Russian drone carried out the attack by dropping ammunition. The model of the Ukrainian robotic transport platform could not be determined, judging by the video, the transport robot was transporting provisions.

 

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Footage of an attack by a Ukrainian drone, presumably of the Baba Yaga type, on a Russian Tor-M2 air defense system in the Zaporizhia direction. The operator of the Ukrainian drone spotted the Russian Tor-M2 air defense system and dropped ammunition on it several times. After the first explosion, the driver of the Russian air defense system quickly got his bearings and drove the combat vehicle out of the line of fire at full speed. Judging by the video, the air defense system may have received minor damage.

 

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Footage of the attack of the Russian FPV drone "Prince Vandal Novgorodsky" on the Ukrainian IFV CV9040C, the video was filmed in the Kursk region of Russia. The CV90 IFV is produced in Sweden, it has very good protection. The CV90 IFV is controlled by 3 people, it can carry up to 4 troops. The CV90 IFV is equipped with a Bofors L / 70 automatic cannon with a caliber of 40 mm. The CV90 IFV was attacked by two Vandal drones, both hit the turret. Presumably, at the time of the attack, the Ukrainian CV90 IFV had already been abandoned by the crew.

 

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So true Russia also has a demographic issue especially ethnic Russians. Russians also fear more Non Ethnic Russians living in Russia like the Chechens, Buryats, Yakuts, Tuvans, Tatars, Azerbaijanis and Georgians hence why most are getting conscripted into the meat grinder.
It is difficult to ascertain what is going on in Russia (data are withheld by the state, data falsified by the state etc) but it looks like there is currently an acute shortage of labour, depressing the viability of Russian industry. If the economy does not enter severe recession, due to many enterprises going bankrupt and halting their activities (which require labour), more labour is needed from countries other than Russia.

If Russians are xenophobic, too bad. If they want an economy that functions they will have to put with up with undesirable non-Russians living among them. Personally I hope that Russians won't have to put up with that. Their economy is currently being wrecked by Putin's war. As the economy goes down, the need for immigrant labour should also go down.

To me what would best prevent Russia invading neighbouring states would be if Russia were so weak financially and industrially that it did not have the means to wage war against any other state. As it happens, that is exactly the direction in which the tyrant in control of the place is taking his country. So, keep up the good work, Vladimir! It is in the long term interest of your neighbours and the rest of the world.

PS This extract from an article in the UK 'Financial Times' suggests that Putin is in deep trouble due to the financial problems he has caused by invading Ukraine.

Putin, in short, does not have time on his side. He sits on a ticking financial time bomb of his own making. The key for Ukraine’s friends is to deny him the one thing that would defuse it: greater access to external funds.

The west has blocked Moscow’s access to some $300bn in reserves, put spanners in the works of its oil trade and hit its ability to import a range of goods. Combined, these prevent Russia from spending all its foreign earnings to relieve resource constraints at home. Intensifying sanctions and finally transferring reserves to Ukraine as a down payment on reparations would intensify those constraints.

Putin’s obsession is the sudden collapse of power. That, as he must be realising, is the risk his war economics has set in motion. Making it recede, by increasing access to external resources through sanctions relief, will be his goal in any diplomacy. The west must convince him that this will not happen. That, and only that, will force Putin to choose between his assault on Ukraine and his grip on power at home.


Who knows, Trump might take steps to intensify Putin's weakness and increase pressure on Russia. A continuation of US support for Ukraine, so a continuation of hostilities and Kremlin spending on the war, would deny Russia any financial respite. Putin would be left in a position where a breakdown of the Russian economy would look more and more inevitable unless Russia, rather than Ukrraine, called for a ceasefire and 'peace talks'.
 
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The incoming U.S. Government has begun to layout what it intends on demanding of Ukraine to continue providing them military support into 2025 and beyond. Today, incoming National Security Advisor Mike Waltz laid a out a couple of those demands.

1. The U.S. wants Ukraine to lower its conscription age to 18 years old. As it stands right now, the Ukrainian conscription age is 25 years old. The Trump Government believes that the West can provide Ukraine with the technology it needs to achieve a stalemate and force Putin to the negotiating table under favorable terms for the West and Ukraine, but not before Ukraine calls up hundreds of thousands of more soldiers that will exhaust Russian advances at the front. Paraphrasing, Waltz today said "If Ukraine wants the West to be all in, they have to show that they're all in. They have hundreds of thousands of men age 18-24 that can be called up to negate Russia's current manpower advantage at the front."

2. They want Ukraine to realistic about what can territory can be regained. Having the position "we won't surrender an inch of former Ukrainian territory" is not something USA thinks is realistic. As a result, the Americans believe that Ukraine has to have achievable goals at the negotiating table.

 

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Paraphrasing, Waltz today said "If Ukraine wants the West to be all in, they have to show that they're all in. They have hundreds of thousands of men age 18-24 that can be called up to negate Russia's current manpower advantage at the front."

What a disgusting scum this guy is. In his hypocrisy, he considers the West giving some excess weapons to Ukraine as being “all-in”, and this to be the equivalent of calling up all young males to die at the frontline.

If he wants Ukraine to be “all-in”, what about the West joining the war with air power and bombing all Russian positions inside Ukraine and 500 km from the border? Not even this would be all in, at it won’t include ground troops, where you get most of the losses, but at least you could say the West is also taking some risks as well.

As things stand right now, Ukraine is doing huge sacrificies to sustain the war, but it is not yet all-in. At the same time, the hypocritical West is throwing scraps at the war in form of weapons and money while not risking any soldier’s life. If someone needs to raise the ante, it is the West, not Ukraine.

What a clown!
 

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What a disgusting scum this guy is. In his hypocrisy, he considers the West giving some excess weapons to Ukraine as being “all-in”, and this to be the equivalent of calling up all young males to die at the frontline.

If he wants Ukraine to be “all-in”, what about the West joining the war with air power and bombing all Russian positions inside Ukraine and 500 km from the border? Not even this would be all in, at it won’t include ground troops, where you get most of the losses, but at least you could say the West is also taking some risks as well.

As things stand right now, Ukraine is doing huge sacrificies to sustain the war, but it is not yet all-in. At the same time, the hypocritical West is throwing scraps at the war in form of weapons and money while not risking any soldier’s life. If someone needs to raise the ante, it is the West, not Ukraine.

What a clown!
I understand your take and empathize deeply with the Ukrainians, but I also completely understand the American position... Let's look at the facts.

1. The West has been staunch from thr outset of the war that they would not contribute manpower to the Ukrainian war effort. They'd back Ukraine with money, equipment and weapons of war, but Ukraine had to supply the manpower to save their country. That includes everything from Infantry to pilots. That isn't the position of only far away countries such as USA, Canada, France and Britain however. Ukraine's direct neighbours don't want to send soldiers to the Ukrainian front either, even know Russia posses a threat to their own safety. Countries to such as Poland, Finland, Sweden, Latvia, Bulgaria, Romania, Estonia, etc could send much needed reinforcements, but they haven't because they don't deem it to be in their best interest.

2. Western aid has been at times frustrating, delayed, disjointed and underwhelming, but the fact is that it has arrived and it has been 50% of the reason (along with Ukrainian sacrifice and resolve) that the Ukrainians are still in the fight and have inflicted such an enormous toll on the Russian military.

3. Ukraine does legitimately have a manpower problem at the front right now. Artillery shell production, drone production, ammunition production both domestically (with enormous financial support from the West) and internationally (in the West itself) has ordered is on the verge of reaching levels that will require enormous manpower to use. Furthermore, many of Ukraine's best fighting brigades have faced serious attrition and required fresh soldiers to learn from veteran soldiers in order to continue to keep the Russians at bay and to stabilize the front lines.

4. Ukraine has what it needs in terms of tens of thousands of ATGMS, drones and hundreds of thousands of artillery shells and guided munitions to largely neutralize the Russian armored corps of MBTs, IFVS and APCs. Those attacking units are quickly neutralized and destroyed by the dozens. The problem Ukraine is facing is that Russia is willing to suffer horrendous losses of personnel to advance and take land and NO army can consistently waste millions of dollars worth of valuable munitions to counter endless small groups of advancing infantry. Those groups are best countered by prepared, layered defenses, manned by hundreds of thousands of soldiers on the defenses, reinforced with artillery and CAS. The West is helping Ukraine with the latter two elements, but the soldiers have to come from Ukraine.

5. The sad reality of this war has always been the same. If we're being realistic about what weapons of war the West is actually willing to provide (not nuclear weapons for example), the result was always going to be a signignificant amount of death on both sides. But we've reached a point where Ukraine is losing the manpower advantage even know it has equaled out (and in some areas surpassed) the technology advantage that Russia has. The American position, like it or not, is that when they've fought wars in their past, they've set the draft age at 18 years old. They disagree with the Ukrainian decision to set the draft age at 25 because they think that's indicative of a country stop short of doing everything in their own power to win the war. Although the 18-24 year old age group doesn't make up an enormous amount of the population of Ukraine, we're still talking about more than 1.5 million men that Ukraine could use to reinforce their military. Even if you drafted 1 in 5 from that age bracket 300,000 men, you could completely replace the attrition that Ukraine's exisiting fighting brigades have suffered along the front and you would force Russia into being willing to fight for another 3+ years, at a time when they've lost an enormous part of their army's inventory of offensive weapons. The Americans are betting that the Russians would rather negotiate than put their economy through 3 more years of this and Ukraine would be able to negotiate from a position of strength and they'd been forced to lose less land in the peace negotiations.

I see all sides on this one. I don't want to see young Ukrainian lose his life fighting a war anymore than you do. But I also people are delusional to think that this war can be won by the West's technology alone. It requires an enormous and constant manpower commitment from Ukraine, combined with both domestical and international production increases the size of which we've not seen since the Cold War.
 

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The American position, like it or not, is that when they've fought wars in their past, they've set the draft age at 18 years old. They disagree with the Ukrainian decision to set the draft age at 25 because they think that's indicative of a country stop short of doing everything in their own power to win the war.

This is because they fail to understand how much different the situation is now, than during the times they fougt their last war using drafted people.

The last time Americans used mobilized soldiers was in Vietnam, and guess how that war ended? They lost because the people were no longer willing to fight and demanded an end to the war. Americans lost their will to fight after fewer losses than Ukraine has already sustained, and we’re talking about a country 10 times bigger and a period 50 years ago, when life was “cheaper”.

So if the brave Americans were not able to sustain as many casualties as the Ukrainains are sustaining now, despite having 10 times higher the population, how can this scum accuse Ukrainians of not doing enough?

On top of that, we also have the demographic problems of Ukraine. In the past, when wars were fought with mobilized soldiers, the population age distribution was always a pyramid. You had a very large children base, and youth were “expendable”. You also had high mortality rates from disease and high poverty rates, so sending people to fight was not seen as something that bad.

But Ukraine lacks children and young people. Ukraininas in the 18-25 age group are few, are educated and they value their life. You can’t draft such people and expect positive results. Look what happened with the famous brigade trained in France, made up of mobilized soldiers. It was disolved because of mass desertions. If people don’t want to fight, they are useless in a war, or even a drag on those who actually want to fight.

If the West wants more soldiers for Ukraine, it should start paying them, instead of relying on slave labor (conscripts). It’s funny that the same hypocrites who don’t want to buy products from Xinjiang because they suspect slave labor is being used, are demanding Ukraine to utilize more slave soldiers.

In the end, what happened with those values like democracy, freedom and human rights? Do they not apply for Ukrainian men? Should they simply be used as slave soldiers, because it’s cheaper than to pay them? Is this how the morals of the West work? It seems that some people still believe slavery is good if it saves them some money.

What a disgusting scum this men is.
 

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