Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,507
Reactions
7 5,314
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia

Kemenlu right now
sweating-hot.gif
 

Lordimperator

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Correspondent
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
5,046
Reactions
3 2,886
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Last edited:

schuimpjes

Experienced member
Messages
2,572
Reactions
5 1,612
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Originally from The Times. This article talked about how Ukrainian Forces (elite) drone pilots operates on this recent war. They using Elon Musk's Starlink for the internet that used to connect the camera to the "artillery guy".

They also said they got access to the NATO's Delta system, which also means that NATO helps them with intelligence too.[1]

Edit: [1] this Delta system is not NATO owned system, but a system that was made(?) with the assistance from NATO.
 
Last edited:

HellFireIndo

Committed member
Messages
284
Reactions
358
What use of G20 Presidency if we cannot have an opinion of our own? This entire group, G20, consisted of among the most imperialistic countries in the world, and they still point fingers at each other when it comes to calling which one is the evilest country?

This war condemnation game is only believed by the most naive people out there, while the reality is always telling us that it is bloc vs bloc cold war all over again. Who wanna believe international institutions could ever mean anything when UN Security Council Veto power is still around? this stuff basically makes the 5 great powers immune to all international law, so international law is meaningless when any of the 5 countries are involved. Go talk about morality and law to Mimi, Rusi, and Cici, and see how well that gonna plays out. Let them argue and fight with each in the G20 forum as they like, but we won't bar anyone from joining for political reasons.

We should do business as usual, nobody could tell us what to do, screw them basically.
 

FPXAllen

Contributor
Indonesia Correspondent
Messages
1,126
Reactions
4 1,702
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
What use of G20 Presidency if we cannot have an opinion of our own? This entire group, G20, consisted of among the most imperialistic countries in the world, and they still point fingers at each other when it comes to calling which one is the evilest country?
Pot calling the kettle black, as usual.
Go talk about morality and law to Mimi, Rusi, and Cici, and see how well that gonna plays out. Let them argue and fight with each in the G20 forum as they like, but we won't bar anyone from joining for political reasons.
This is why the "bebas aktif" policy is needed and still relevant for us. It's not without its disadvantages, but so far its pros still outweighs its cons by a large enough margin.
We should do business as usual, nobody could tell us what to do, screw them basically.
Indeed. But we also must be prepared to be ridiculed by those keyboard warriors and 'woke' Western media like what they're still doing to India right now.

This will also carry a possibility that if - God forbid - something goes terribly wrong in our North Natuna Sea, we won't get support as much as we deserve from them.

But still, in general, I'll say: F*ck 'em all. Yes, all. Mimi, Rusi, Cici and every other parties who think that their own truth and interests are all that matter.
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,507
Reactions
7 5,314
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia

What use of G20 Presidency if we cannot have an opinion of our own? This entire group, G20, consisted of among the most imperialistic countries in the world, and they still point fingers at each other when it comes to calling which one is the evilest country?

This war condemnation game is only believed by the most naive people out there, while the reality is always telling us that it is bloc vs bloc cold war all over again. Who wanna believe international institutions could ever mean anything when UN Security Council Veto power is still around? this stuff basically makes the 5 great powers immune to all international law, so international law is meaningless when any of the 5 countries are involved. Go talk about morality and law to Mimi, Rusi, and Cici, and see how well that gonna plays out. Let them argue and fight with each in the G20 forum as they like, but we won't bar anyone from joining for political reasons.

We should do business as usual, nobody could tell us what to do, screw them basically.

Pot calling the kettle black, as usual.

This is why the "bebas aktif" policy is needed and still relevant for us. It's not without its disadvantages, but so far its pros still outweighs its cons by a large enough margin.

Indeed. But we also must be prepared to be ridiculed by those keyboard warriors and 'woke' Western media like what they're still doing to India right now.

This will also carry a possibility that if - God forbid - something goes terribly wrong in our North Natuna Sea, we won't get support as much as we deserve from them.

But still, in general, I'll say: F*ck 'em all. Yes, all. Mimi, Rusi, Cici and every other parties who think that their own truth and interests are all that matter.

We still have 8 months
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,507
Reactions
7 5,314
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Hmm... what if more than half of G20 countries boycot Bali 2022 Summit if Russia came?

Will Indonesia still invite Russia if that is the case?
 

R4duga

Experienced member
Messages
1,670
Reactions
2 2,367
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
good thing prabowo are trying to work with france lmao. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

https://thediplomat.com/2015/06/is-russias-deadliest-tank-using-western-technology/
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/article/article_789.html
1648032800193.png


" Russian defense industry is having difficulties producing thermal imaging systems like night vision cameras. The reason? Russia’s inability “to produce a critical component — microbolometer arrays — which can capture images without requiring cooling, reducing the size and complexity of thermal imaging systems,”

"Viktor Tarasov, the senior manager of a subsidiary of Ruselectronics, a state-owned hodling company, wrote a letter to its CEO in which he asked to press the Russian minister of defense for money to buy 500 microbolometer arrays from a French company."
 

Madokafc

Experienced member
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
5,917
Reactions
4 10,056
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
Hmm... what if more than half of G20 countries boycot Bali 2022 Summit if Russia came?

Will Indonesia still invite Russia if that is the case?

My friend who is the organizer got headache already, the US, the Britain, France, Italia, Germany and several other would not come if the Russian came. But the Russian itself already not hearing any other opinion in this matter as the invitation already sent to them since last year.
 

Umigami

Experienced member
Moderator
Indonesia Moderator
Messages
6,507
Reactions
7 5,314
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
My friend who is the organizer got headache already, the US, the Britain, France, Italia, Germany and several other would not come if the Russian came. But the Russian itself already not hearing any other opinion in this matter as the invitation already sent to them since last year.
So situation isn't really on our control actually. 😑

Wes lek koyok ngene gak usah pusing2.
Sek arep teko yo teko, seng emoh yo gak popo...

Kecuali lek undangan ne isok ditarik, opo Putin ne gak usah dike'i visa...
 

Madokafc

Experienced member
Think Tank Analyst
DefenceHub Diplomat
Messages
5,917
Reactions
4 10,056
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
The funny thing is the Russian embassy rejecting the phone call from his superior (From Ministry of Finance as one of the main organizer and liaision officer) when talked about this matter. And in my opinion we should and must invited both Russia and Ukraine for G20 meeting, with the presence of Zelensky, those pesky jerk leader from western allies doesn't have significant reason to not come to Bali as even Zelensky himself come to Bali. And even better how to reserve a boxing ring for Zelensky and Putin and let them both resolved their countries conflict there.
 

FPXAllen

Contributor
Indonesia Correspondent
Messages
1,126
Reactions
4 1,702
Nation of residence
Indonesia
Nation of origin
Indonesia
And even better how to reserve a boxing ring for Zelensky and Putin and let them both resolved their countries conflict there.
Fight of the century!

HTM: Rp. 5.000.000 (festival) - 250.000.000 (VVIP).
 

Follow us on social media

Top Bottom