TR Casual Discussion TOGG - Türkiye's Automotive Joint Venture Group

[Hexciter]

What will be the yearly output of this factor and how is it compared to a giga factory of Tesla?

175k factory

 

[Xenon54]

175k factory

Quite low but its a start i guess.
The output must be increased to be able to produce with competitive prices, the less you produce the higher unit price.

 

[Stuka]

What will be the yearly output of this factor and how is it compared to a giga factory of Tesla?

The Battery Production Capacity is enough for a Potential of 400.000 Cars annually.

But it depends on the Demand.
More important is the fact that most places aren't ready for Electric Cars. They are going to need many Charging Stations.

 

[Combat-Master]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1442474104003592194

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443229079415705606

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1442474104003592194

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443229079415705606

The automative industry is a big thrilion dollar industry. I hope this will cut the import of cars to turkey in the long term.

 

[what]

The automative industry is a big thrilion dollar industry. I hope this will cut the import of cars to turkey in the long term.

We already have a decent sized automotive industry and the taxes on imports are high. On the contrary we are exporting vehicles worth billions to Europe and the US.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

TOGG variants

 

[Nilgiri]

We already have a decent sized automotive industry and the taxes on imports are high. On the contrary we are exporting vehicles worth billions to Europe and the US.

In 2019, in transport sector, TR exported around 30 billion USD and imported around 17 billion USD.

A net of 13 billion USD...

It comes to about 150 USD per person in Turkey.

It is not bad....but TR could be doing far better.

To give idea this net export for case (arguably the gold standard here) in transport sector is 1600 USD.

On other end are recent + distanced (logistically) arrivals like China and India where this number is around 10 USD and 5 USD respectively in this transport sector (net export per capita).

This gives you an idea overall what the investment intensities for Turkey need to be seen to propel more towards German number. The last few pages in TR economy thread, I write about this being quite lacking....and thus you see relative stagnation when TR potential is quite good here given its population and location...and clear path w.r.t gold standard number like in Germany.

 

[what]

In 2019, in transport sector, TR exported around 30 billion USD and imported around 17 billion USD.

A net of 13 billion USD...

It comes to about 150 USD per person in Turkey.

It is not bad....but TR could be doing far better.

To give idea this net export for case (arguably the gold standard here) in transport sector is 1600 USD.

On other end are recent + distanced (logistically) arrivals like China and India where this number is around 10 USD and 5 USD respectively in this transport sector (net export per capita).

This gives you an idea overall what the investment intensities for Turkey need to be seen to propel more towards German number. The last few pages in TR economy thread, I write about this being quite lacking....and thus you see relative stagnation when TR potential is quite good here given its population and location...and clear path w.r.t gold standard number like in Germany.

I totally agree, just wanted to voice that the automotive sector is already, unlike many other industries, a profitable one for Turkey.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

We already have a decent sized automotive industry and the taxes on imports are high. On the contrary we are exporting vehicles worth billions to Europe and the US.

Yes. I read a article long time ago how turkey have high taxes on car imports. Im not sure how much TOG will affect the market but i hope they can take a huge share in turkey. Just look at how germany are exporting 150 billion usd worth of vehicles every year.

 

[what]

Yes. I read a article long time ago how turkey have high taxes on car imports. Im not sure how much TOG will affect the market but i hope they can take a huge share in turkey. Just look at how germany are exporting 150 billion usd worth of vehicles every year.

The success of TOGG in exports will be hard. They are starting with nothing, no PR no brand.

 

[Nilgiri]

Yes. I read a article long time ago how turkey have high taxes on car imports. Im not sure how much TOG will affect the market but i hope they can take a huge share in turkey. Just look at how germany are exporting 150 billion usd worth of vehicles every year.

150 billion in cars alone

Another 63 billion in vehicle parts

12 billion in trucks

12 billion in aircraft parts (my company is involved in some of this from MTU)

9 billion in tractors

Bunch more billions in others till you get to a 300 bn total "all in".

Germany is truly "the" beast here for 80 million population.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

150 billion in cars alone

Another 63 billion in vehicle parts

12 billion in trucks

12 billion in aircraft parts (my company is involved in some of this from MTU)

9 billion in tractors

Bunch more billions in others till you get to a 300 bn total "all in".

Germany is truly "the" beast here for 80 million population.

Economic superhouse.

 

[Saithan]

Charging stations, at least get going with those.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443230194521853959

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1443230197839507458

 

[Stuka]

Our prototype testing processes are progressing in line with our plans. Our aerodynamic and aeroacoustic tests were carried out today.

TOGG C-SUV in White.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445780728612986881

 

[Huelague]

Our prototype testing processes are progressing in line with our plans. Our aerodynamic and aeroacoustic tests were carried out today.

TOGG C-SUV in White.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1445780728612986881

I will order one.

 

[AWP]

can't wait to drive TOGG in canada , tesla is good company but quality they produce is not like how people hype it . while they have a good electric engine and battery, have some shitty interior made of cheap martials .

anyway , will the car be 100% fully made in turkey ?

 

[Test7]

There are changes in the design and I did not like the new one at all

 

[Combat-Master]

There are changes in the design and I did not like the new one at all



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Suppose it has to cater for real-world expectations, side mirrors are no longer cameras either by the looks of them.